In Ireland and other places, there is much debate on the issue of migration, immigration and asylum seekers. This causes reactions which are then exploited by reactionary forces. That debate challenges Ireland and Europe to look at the north-south divide in the world. Given the state of poverty in Africa, what else would a rational African do, even at the peril of his life, but try and get to a richer place to the north? There is a challenge and an answer which is not the populist answer. Mr. Haider won more votes in Austria for extension of Austrian corporatism than for nazism. It is an incredibly corporatist state – to the extent that one has to be a card-carrying member to be employed as a school janitor or in a sub post office. Of course that would never happen in Irish politics but Senators will appreciate my point.