The Seanad has been in existence for the past 65 years and I am sure changes have been made during that time. However, it must be difficult to reform an institution from within. Will outside consultants be employed to consider how it should be reformed? Can people reform themselves? If one wants to become more aggressive in business, one must bring in outside people to look unemotionally at what is being done. Reform is needed. During the election campaign, some people said that the Seanad is not relevant. If people think that, it must be reformed. However, we need an international consultancy group to examine how it and its democratic representation can be improved.