There are other points I would like to make, but I am conscious of my time limit and have concentrated on the core issues. By extending the franchise we would also raise the involvement and interest of ordinary people. We would do ourselves a huge favour, even if this Seanad did nothing more than bring about that change. I ask for an open debate on the matter. As an indication of credibility, I suggest that Senators begin by considering what changes are appropriate in their respective electoral panels. Those who focus on one particular panel are simply taking the easy way out.