Terry Leyden (Fianna Fail)

That is fine, but councillors represent 3.5 million people. It is a great privilege for them. I do not want to see reform as I am quite happy with their right and privilege to vote in Seanad elections. Having been an unsuccessful candidate on two previous occasions I would still prefer the vote of councillors rather than a list system. I am not in favour of a list system, not because I am afraid that I might not get on it, but because many who might deserve to be here might not get on it. Councillors, Deputies and Senators made a decision to put us here. The Taoiseach has the right to nominate 11 Senators, a right included in the Constitution by Éamon de Valera.