This is also the analysis of business and other civic sector leaders in the State. The IDA chief executive, Mr. Seán Dorgan, who knows more about job creation than most on the "No" side, has stated matters very clearly. He says, "The vote on the Nice treaty wil be seen by investors and potential investors as indicating the degree of our engagement in the EU, whether we are participating at the heart of its future development or whether we are marginalised." No serious person wants to marginalise Ireland in Europe.