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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: It is funded and when will it be fully in place?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: What is the staffing level now? It has been significantly increased so that the processing can be done more efficiently. Is it at full complement now or are there vacancies?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: That figure came from what?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Are there plans to expand further, or is that sufficient?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I want to ask about Algeria. If I was thinking of going on holiday to Algeria and I went on the website of the Department of Foreign Affairs, I would see the warning advising me not to visit particular parts of the country because of problems with terrorism and kidnappings. What engagement is there between the Departments of Foreign Affairs and Justice regarding the decision-making?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I want to go back to issues in the prison service . My understanding is that this week there were 71 women in the upgraded prison in Limerick which only contains 56 beds. What is the overcrowding situation and where will the pinch points be in advance of some of the additional services coming on stream?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Traditionally and now women make up a lower number of the prison population. That obviously has increased. Has any analysis been done on this? We have been given some information as to why there has been an increase in the prison population because of increased court capacity and things like that. Is that likely to have been a catch-up or is there an expectation that it will increase further?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Okay. Prison has a number of functions, including protecting the population, but it is also for rehabilitation. That has to be a central plank of the system. Are there people in prison, swelling the numbers, who are there for things like non-payment of a debt and those kinds of offences?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: It seems to me that the legislation does not require a client to keep the information up-to-date.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Okay. I want to ask a few more questions. Recently, a number of people, including children, arrived in the country, at Wexford, in a container. They disappeared within a very short period. They may well have thought they were going to the UK. It is unusual. How would the Department follow up on that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Outside the jurisdiction.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Is there a current value for Thorton Hall? What agencies is the Department-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Is the Department engaging with agencies?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Is there any development likely?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: With regard to Walter Scott House, which is a smaller facility than the one that was at Harcourt Square, things have changed owing to remote working, and hot desks and the like are far more prevalent than before the pandemic. Are there residual costs for Walter Scott House in relation to carparking?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I will ask a parliamentary question on that, so. On the coroner service, we passed legislation last night. I am not sure whether it has gone through the Seanad but the Dáil certainly passed Final Stage. What happens in this regard in terms of the regulatory impact assessment and requirements for additional staff? There are delays in the coroner courts. They really do affect people...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: It is very expensive to keep somebody in prison. If we are to look at it from a financial point of view, apart from the personal impact on prisoners and ex-prisoners, it amounts to €88,000 per annum. Dr. Regan has described what happens and the targeting of particular prisons. One can say that this is really quite strategic. Would the witnesses say there is more support for a...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: CAMHS will not look at people with autism.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Catherine Murphy: It is quite useful to have it said that all the services are in one place at the first point of engagement. We are acutely aware of the inadequacy of services in the community in terms of children, disability and mental health issues. We can see where it is going. If we do not spend the money there, we spend it later on, and possibly on multiple occasions if people end up in prison repeatedly.

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