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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: We have just spoken about the Danish model, where a much more inclusive approach was taken and in which communities had a stake in the project. Is that not an alternative?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: It seems to me that the way the industry goes about it almost creates a reaction within communities. The community gain is seen as an afterthought, rather than starting out with getting buy-in from the community, and so friction is created. Perhaps Mr. Cowhig can tell us about some of the community gain that he has agreed to at this stage.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: How is the company dealing with people who are objecting or who have serious problems with the proposals?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: So essentially the company has a project, it informs people that the project is going to go ahead and then, subject to the project getting planning permission and abiding by the guidelines, it is ameliorated by a community gain. That is the message that is coming from the company.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: Why did the company pick the midlands? When I was on Kildare County Council a few years ago, we had a look at wind energy and whether it should be included as a heading on its own in our development plan. In fact, it was not included because it was not seen as an area that would be the most likely for wind power, mainly because the land mass is very flat. Now there are very high turbines...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: I am unsure whether it was the representatives from Element Power or Bord na Móna who said they had landscape architects on board. They are rather hard to hide. Why would they have a landscape architect?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: The representatives from Bord na Móna indicated they were surprised that the public consultation - the reverse PPP, as it were - with community involvement did not come through. Did the company put that out as a menu option, or was it relying on people to come up with ideas themselves in terms of community gain?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: The company cannot factor that in until-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: A project involving 650 or 700 turbines is a sizeable project which would have a major impact. Reference was made to rural communities and planning permission being turned down. I would not be the greatest advocate of one-off housing, with some exceptions, but some people are struggling in this regard. This applies to people who have a reason to live in a community, who are from the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: Is there anywhere comparable we could go? If I were to go somewhere tomorrow to look, where could I see something comparable to what is being proposed?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: When I asked about looking at something comparable, I meant something comparable rather than one of the projects associated with the deputations. I was thinking about somewhere in Europe.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: There are some issues relating to the bogs themselves. Bord na Móna held a briefing in Buswell's Hotel not long ago during which I asked Mr. D'Arcy about the hydrological assessment of the bogs. In parts of the UK they have done some work on wetlands, trying to make them accumulate floodwaters so that they do not end up very quickly in rivers and then flood towns. Bogs or wetlands...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: I believe the report by the National Economic and Social Council, NESC, highlighted the opportunities for wind export. We are very well positioned on the periphery of Europe for what the report suggested would be the real opportunity for big industrial development with export potential, which would be offshore. In the past couple of weeks a report has come from the European Commission on...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: I am not a climate change sceptic. With regard to 20% of the €6 billion worth of fossil fuel imported, which is beyond dispute, we are in a very precarious position in being at the end of a pipeline. We may well have reasonably good power stations, but if there is nothing to power them, would the witnesses accept that we are in a precarious position? Could that 20% be increased?...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Electricity Generation and Export: Discussion (18 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: What does Mr. Swords hope for in the guidelines?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Oireachtas (Ministerial and Parliamentary Offices) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: I am unsure about this proposal regarding tax clearance certificates. I have no difficulty with Members being tax compliant, as they absolutely should be. Moreover, things should be vouched and open and there should be proper oversight and so on. However, my understanding is no individual receives funding in this way and only political parties actually receive any kind of funding under the...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Oireachtas (Ministerial and Parliamentary Offices) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: Is that not what this is about?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Oireachtas (Ministerial and Parliamentary Offices) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: I mean the amendment.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Oireachtas (Ministerial and Parliamentary Offices) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: Very well.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Oireachtas (Ministerial and Parliamentary Offices) (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2014)

Catherine Murphy: We all agree that we have a powerful Executive-----

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