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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I would be happy to get a note on that as I have only a small amount of speaking time left. I will skip through a number of other issues. The non-Garda staff members of the force are important. I am told that a large number of these staff are seeking to transfer out. I believe the figure is some 1,600 out of 3,000. Would that be correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: The number of people applying for jobs from other parts of the Civil Service does not give rise to the same movement as there is among the civilian staff of An Garda Síochána. Is that not the case? Is it an impediment?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: That is movement within the Garda.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I presume An Garda Síochána has put in place contingency plans because of the very large number of staff involved.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: At the same time, the Garda would want to hold onto people. It takes a long time for people to be trained. The Garda wants a degree of stability. That kind of movement would not fill me with confidence about viability in the context of stability within stations, for example.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I presume the Garda Commissioner has interaction with the Minister on that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: On roads policing, in 2023 there were 104 fewer Garda policing the roads than there were in 2021. That is a substantial drop in numbers. Road deaths have increased and it is difficult to avoid making some sort of a correlation there. Will the Garda Commissioner provide us with more information on this? Is roads policing the poor relation? Does it get the kind of attention it requires?...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: There are 104 fewer-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: Is that figure back up to where it was? I am just relying on a reply I received to a parliamentary question.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I understand that but the personnel are needed to do-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I acknowledge that much of that is very positive but it is also about the number of personnel. I will resubmit a parliamentary question to get up-to-date numbers. Has the Garda Commissioner brought the tax issue to the Tax Appeals Commission or did it go directly to Revenue?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I will go back to the question I asked about the allocation of resources. I remember meeting an assistant commissioner 25 years ago and being told that divisions would not give up resources and they have what they hold, which means there is a real difficulty for areas that are growing in population. I have looked at policing plan after policing plan and it is like cut and paste or copy and...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: You cannot ignore population either.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: I will put it in context. If the Commissioner were to look at policing levels, for example, in County Meath, where the Minister for Justice is located, and the resources there and the average resources nationally, tongue in cheek, if the resources in Meath were to be deployed elsewhere, he could cut the police force in half. That is the level of cover. Population does not seem to matter....

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: The group of people who came out of Templemore just before Christmas was just after the Dublin riots. That was understandable because a capital city cannot be policed on overtime. I imagine a high amount of overtime is being used over and above the €10 million that was allocated to Dublin. I am hearing that people from outside the Dublin region are being asked whether they want...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: The Commissioner mentioned something about monitoring the number of calls coming in and where they are coming from. There are places where people do not bother calling. They do not bother calling because they do not expect to get a service. That is not to be critical of the gardaí who are there. They can only do what they can do. I have a lot of engagement with the gardaí in my...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: There is a unit that specifically looks at social media. What kind of numbers are in that unit?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: The algorithms on my Twitter account are all over the place because I have been keeping an eye on a few things. For example, there were two arson attacks on the same building in my area. There is the same profile. It may not be the same people who are burning buildings and they may not use the same means to set them on fire but there is a commonality in respect of the transfer of...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
(21 Mar 2024)

Catherine Murphy: That is after the event.

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