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Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: No. It is agreed.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: No. I agree with the recommendation.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: I totally agree that it has to be an Oireachtas committee. It is public money that is being spent to run these agencies. The first reaction would be the that it should be Public Accounts Committee. We have as much power and responsibility as the Public Accounts Committee and we should have these agencies in front of us and they should be able to answer those questions on behalf of the...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: We are caught between a rock and a hard place. As for retention and contractual law, if people are being subvented, it is not hard to write up a contract that states that once a person is qualified, he or she will work there for the next five years. We have the best trained people in the planet but the working conditions, the cost of living and the whole lot is what pushes them out. People...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: Yes, this is true.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: I agree with the proposal to bring in the responsible bodies because in Cork University Hospital, CUH, where staff are charged extortionate money for parking, they now want to use the car park for an extension that will leave staff with nowhere to park. They will have to move away from CUH and probably will go across to the private car park. We are going backwards. I sat on the autism...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: No, it will not be given until it has been buried in legal.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: It is a bit outside the box but-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: Given our committee is called the Joint Committee on Public Petitions and the Ombudsman and we work with the European Ombudsman, has she played any part in this over the years? If there is a European Ombudsman, why can we not use it?

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: It is not good enough.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: Moreover, we should write as a committee - not the poor man as an individual - to flag it up with the current European Ombudsman to say this committee has been made aware of the case and that we are now making her aware of it-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: That includes flagging it with the ombudsman.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: I apologise to the secretariat. We have given it a ball of work.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: I agree with the previous speakers. I am on the record as being against this Bill, as it stands. It is causing so much confusion and the rumours are off the charts. While we all received emails and such, there is governmental and diplomatic procedure on this. The proper way to go on this is through the Seanad because that is where the Bill is being discussed. That is the safest way to...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: The group did plenty of lobbying with all the county councils in any event, in fairness to it. From my reading of it, these people have been talking to the families. This is what the families want. If everybody on one side is in agreement, we have two problems. The first is that three State organisations are supposedly responsible for making the decision as to whether the bodies can be...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: Make a decision once and for all. We are tormenting everybody here. I cannot believe the group has that level of backing. I can see the point about the historical side of it and that Kilmainham Gaol is possibly consecrated ground now in any event, but, on the other side, if we want to complicate it even more, we could examine whether there is a possibility of a State funeral or other State...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: Then the buck stops there.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: To put on record, if they are stuck with the excavation, I will do it myself. I did many of them in my previous career, believe it or not.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: No, it is a commonsense approach.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Pat Buckley: We will have to wait and see what the response is before we can discuss it.

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