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Seanad: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (11 Dec 2015)

David Norris: .... It is a marketing exercise and a PR stunt by people who are radical feminists and ex-nuns. Some of them should be ashamed of themselves, given that they come from the order that operated the Magdalen laundries and are still trying to control people. The amendment provides that the Minister's report would include the extent to which, in the opinion of the Minister, the section has...

Seanad: Order of Business (1 Dec 2015)

David Norris: I will end on this. On the other hand, those to whom I refer are religious people from a particular background and many of them are from the order that supervised the Magdalen laundries. That ought to tell one something.

Seanad: Redress for Women Resident in Certain Institutions Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (4 Mar 2015)

David Norris: There was also a question that there were a number of items that were stated in material emanating from the Justice for Magdalenes that the Minister of State felt were unfair. He felt that they stated that certain matters are not in the Bill, and he went through it and stated these are in the Bill. If further clarification is needed by those who asked the questions, now is the time to seek it.

Seanad: Order of Business (10 Feb 2015)

David Norris: ...in County Clare. The second issue I wish to raise concerns the Ruhama campaign, Turn off the Red Light. Ruhama is a plague formed out of the order of nuns who instigated it, who were in charge of the Magdalen laundries. One must temper one's listening to them.

Seanad: Order of Business (27 Jun 2013)

David Norris: ...election to Seanad Éireann. I will be around. As unpopular and all as are my views, people like that there is someone around to voice them. While I welcome what has been done in respect of the Magdalen laundries, what about the Bethany Homes? Can we please have some information about them? I would like also to register my disappointment at the proposal to close An Siopa, through...

Seanad: Order of Business (21 Feb 2013)

David Norris: ...recently is in serious danger of being undermined. This relates to the comments of Senator Bacik. Apparently, officials from the Department of Justice and Equality have cast doubt on whether the Magdalen survivors would be included in the redress scheme because some of them have already been party to the residential institutions redress scheme. They were given an assurance at that time...

Seanad: Order of Business (19 Feb 2013)

David Norris: ...European Court of Justice. It would be helpful if the Leader would communicate this situation to the Minister he deems responsible for this area. I support the call for an informed debate on the Magdalen laundries report. We rushed to congratulate the authors of this report but now we are beginning to see a more complex picture. It is regrettable that people are attempting to displace...

Seanad: Order of Business (13 Feb 2013)

David Norris: ...by the name of Frigide Barjot. It is regrettable such things should continue to happen but, unfortunately, I am used to this attitude from the church. We have recently heard about apologies to the Magdalen women, and I strongly support that. I think people like myself are entitled to an apology too from the State, from the Roman Catholic Church in particular and from the Pope, who every...

Seanad: Order of Business (5 Feb 2013)

David Norris: ...played in a quiet way, of former Senator McAleese and his wife, the former President, Mary McAleese. The greatest tribute we can pay him is a practical one, which is to discuss the report on the Magdalen laundries, which coincidentally is being released to the survivor groups as we speak, as soon as is practicable, taking into account the fact that it is important that we read the report...

Seanad: Statute of Limitations (Amendment) (Home Remediation-Pyrite) Bill 2012: Second Stage (5 Dec 2012)

David Norris: ...account, although the Minister of State acknowledges the unpredictability of pyrite. There is the Statute of Limitations which I realise is troubling. We dealt with this issue in dealing with the Magdalene laundries and it will arise again in dealing with the symphysiotomy issue, in respect of which there is a proposal concerning the timing of knowledge, although this may be difficult to...

Seanad: Residential Institutions Statutory Fund Bill 2012: Second Stage (19 Jul 2012)

David Norris: ...would not categorise religious orders. I want to raise a couple of questions with the Minister. By and large, it is a good Bill. Like others, I want to see something done for the survivors of the Magdalene laundries. This issue is under review. This is another shocking matter. Apparently, people did not realise it. I understand that, for example, laundry went at one stage in the...

Seanad: Residential Institutions (Redress) Bill 2011: Second Stage (19 Jul 2011)

David Norris: ...have happened had it been a Roman Catholic prelate making a similar plea. The situation of the Bethany Home in Rathgar, which operated between 1921 and 1972, is exactly analogous to that of the Magdalene laundries. I attended a service some time ago at the burial place of 200 children in unmarked graves. The naming of those children was marked with a ceremony. In 1939, the State's...

Seanad: Order of Business (6 Jul 2011)

David Norris: ...is most regrettable. The victims of clerical abuse should be of the primary concern of all involved. I welcome that Senator Martin McAleese has been appointed chair of the investigation into the Magdalen laundries. The survivors of a similar institution, the Protestant-run Bethany Home, like the Magdalen survivors, have been excluded from redress. Will Senator McAleese examine the...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 Jun 2011)

David Norris: ...in such a way as to suggest that it is all more or less the same debate. The matters itemised for consideration by us were virtually the same. I am glad that Senator Bacik took up the issue of the Magdalene laundries. Perhaps it will receive further coverage by us in this House. It is interesting and ironic that this new information came from a ledger that was unearthed when bodies were...

Seanad: Order of Business (21 Jun 2011)

David Norris: ...was about Bethany Home and the fact that the Church of Ireland Archbishop of Dublin should be included in the redress scheme. This was met with a rather strange silence. The other issue was about Magdalene laundries. I would like to pursue these issues, because there have been developments. First, on behalf of the Bethany Home survivors, Mr. Leinster has stated that he is putting a...

Seanad: Order of Business (15 Jun 2011)

David Norris: ...meet through their Whips to see if this is possible as this would avoid an unnecessary vote that would make this House look silly. I am very glad the Government has established an inquiry into the Magdalene laundries. I do not think the remit is quite wide enough and I would prefer it to be slightly wider. I asked originally for the three things the Magdalene survivors asked for, which...

Seanad: Order of Business (8 Jun 2011)

David Norris: ...but if one attempted to make the journey that quickly by road, a very fast car would be needed and one would certainly end up in jail. I was saddened by the State's defence in respect of the Magdalene laundries. As I have faith in our new Government, I will speak about a matter I have raised on numerous occasions, that is, the involvement of Protestant institutions in this area. They...

Seanad: Order of Business (7 Jun 2011)

David Norris: ...this mess. I am deeply ashamed at the report of the United Nations committee against torture. It does not make me feel good as an Irishman to read the recommendations. Many of us spoke about the Magdalene institutions and I am glad that this determination has come. I pay tribute to those courageous people who have spoken out before, including people who were in the institutions. I...

Seanad: Order of Business (9 Nov 2010)

David Norris: ...his wife's name. We must retain the human element. In that context, I welcome the publication by the Irish Human Rights Commission of an interim or partial report on the situation regarding the Magdalen Laundries. From this it appears very clear that the State and some of the religious orders have questions to answer. In particular, questions arise about official State records being...

Seanad: Social Welfare and Pensions (No. 2) Bill 2009: Second Stage (15 Dec 2009)

David Norris: ...made by Senator Butler who bravely attempted to welcome it. I made an important point in another part of the building during a discussion on compensation tribunals, with specific reference to the Magdalen laundry victims. When people talk about the liability of the State in this context, I usually argue that there is really no such thing as the State in this sense. It is a question of...

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