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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I move amendment No. 14: In page 8, line 19, after “public” to insert “and relevant private”. All of these amendments are related in their logic. They propose that references to the Land Development Agency having powers in respect of public lands be extended to include private lands. I made many points earlier on about what a land development agency should...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Darragh O'Brien: ...been jointly tabled by Deputy Boyd Barrett and his colleagues. Amendment No. 14 seeks to amend section 2(e) of the Bill, which provides for the development and regeneration of all relevant public land for housing, to include a reference to "relevant private" land. Amendment No. 32 seeks to amend section 2(k) of the Bill, which provides for the same thing, consolidation and provision, to...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I have made the point, so I will not labour it. It just shows a fundamental difference in approach. There is a lot of unutilised public land but, in my opinion and that of many members of the committee, that land is underutilised because central government has refused to give local authorities the money, resources and so on to develop public land. Rather than seeing the problem being...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Eoin Ó Broin: .... I will support any amendment which attempts to do that. I also support Deputy Higgins' amendment in principle because there has been confusion in the public arena around much of the debate on land values. There should be no reference to market value anywhere in this legislation, because market value is the open market value of land when it is sold on the open market and is...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Cian O'Callaghan: Regarding amendments Nos. 39 and 90, Deputy Ó Broin has put forward quite well the case as to how if public land is ceded to private developers, it increases its cost. The latter means that fewer people can access housing that is affordable for either rent or purchase and that obviously locks them out in terms of affordability. It also creates a housing supply issue because if we rely...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Eoin Ó Broin: My clear understanding of the Bill is that these lands are not covered and the LDA does not seek to require them but I fully understand the Deputy's intentions. Perhaps the Minister could address the following. One of the things that has caused confusion across many areas is that the LDA has a geomapping facility on its website that identifies land but the way in which this is presented...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Paul McAuliffe: ...I am repeating the point Deputy Higgins has made. There have been many characterisations of this legislation. In essence, it is a mechanism to take the commercial value and apply a charge to the land, which will mean it will deliver both social and affordable housing. Doing so reduces the value of the land cost, so when housing is built, the land value has been eliminated from it....

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Emer Higgins: I speak to my motion in that same grouping. I am looking for the affordable land value mechanism to be enshrined in the legislation. We all need to have confidence that affordable homes built on public land will be made as affordable as possible. That means having an affordable land value so that the prices reflect the fact these houses are on land which is effectively discounted because...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Darragh O'Brien: I thank Deputies Duncan Smith and Eoin Ó Broin for their comments. I think everyone knows there is no intention that any lands such as the Phoenix Park would be used by the LDA, nor will that ever happen. The Bill deals with relevant public lands, which are lands in the ownership of public bodies in population areas of more than 10,000. Section 3 of the Phoenix Park Act 1925 confirms...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Duncan Smith: I move amendment No. 51: In page 10, between lines 29 and 30, to insert the following: “(3) Notwithstanding subsection (1), the following shall not be relevant public land for the purposes of this Act: (a) any land that is being managed, maintained or developed as a nature reserve or a national park by the National Parks and Wildlife Service of the Department of Housing, Heritage...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Cian O'Callaghan: ...having a ministerial safeguard, it is not a safeguard in terms of investment funds. It is the case that the Minister has been a strong backer of several projects of housing being built on public lands where the sites have been sold on to private developers and where we know the housing will end up in the hands of investment funds. The Minister has been a very strong backer of those...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Duncan Smith: ...the dwellings;”. This amendment is another attempt to extract from this Bill any opportunity for profiteering as much as possible. It aims to define cost rental for dwellings by taking the value of the land out of the equation. The value of land is the fundamental issue as to why house prices are the way they are. It feeds into the cost of everything related to that. That is...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I move amendment No. 50: In page 10, between lines 14 and 15, to insert the following: “ “relevant private land” means land that is owned privately but has lain unused for more than three years, or has building(s) that are unused for more than three years on it;”.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Eoin Ó Broin: ...speaks to one of the most fundamental differences of opinion between all of the Opposition and the Government. It is about what the best delivery or development model is for housing on the lands that the LDA will be delivering. The problem with this set of sections of the Bill is that it promotes joint ventures, land initiatives, collaborations with investment vehicles and a variety of...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Thomas Gould: ...purchase or rent. These are the facts and there is no disputing that. In Cork North-Central house prices are increasing each year and so are rents. Bringing private developers in to develop public lands will only make matters worse. These amendments propose that public land should be used for public houses. These are scarce resources. This land is badly needed to deliver homes for...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Darragh O'Brien: ...on the housing ladder at an affordable rate. I hope the Deputies will support those measures. Deputy Gould at his public meetings with Deputy Ó Broin needs to explain that they do not want the Land Development Agency to build any homes or plan to build any homes. That is the position they have set out. That is fine and they are entitled to that position. I do not have to agree...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Richard Boyd Barrett: ...of amendments explained by Deputies Cian O'Callaghan and Ó Broin which seek to exclude what the Bill seeks to include, which is essentially to bring in private investors to develop the public land bank. This is a point I have made to the Minister before, and Deputy O'Callaghan has just made it too. I would love to hear the Minister's response on this. To me, it is not even an...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Eoin Ó Broin: ...had a very nice photo shoot recently. As I understand it, the Minister has approved funding for an approved housing body to deliver cost rental units on that site. The problem, however, is that that land was previously public land, but it was sold at full market value. Unlike Dublin City Council, Fingal County Council and South Dublin County Council got full market value for their...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Richard Boyd Barrett: ...76, Price under agreement, the Bill sets out two provisions that show the fundamental flaws in the Government's approach in trying to address the housing crisis through the use of the public land bank. It links the price it will charge for either affordable purchase housing or for rental property that will be built on public lands to the local market specifically. Section 76(2) states:...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Land Development Agency Bill 2021: Committee Stage (Resumed) (1 Jun 2021)

Darragh O'Brien: ...this Bill was published before the Affordable Housing Bill. That is why I intend to bring forward amendments on Report Stage, especially to Part 9, including section 76, which will align the Land Development Agency, the affordability piece and the definitions with the Affordable Housing Bill. It is important that is done to provide the additional clarity around this. We will do so by...

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