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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

..., it is very simple. Those NGOs were involved in terror activities. Some of them were also convicted terrorists. Further to that, some of the money they used was for terror activities within Israel and the West Bank and Gaza. The question everyone asks, or that we need to ask, is, if Israel categorises them as terrorist organisations or identifies them as supporting terrorism and how...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

Ms Jackie Goodall: I thank the committee for inviting the Ireland Israel Alliance, IIA, to counter Amnesty International’s report that charges Israel with apartheid against Palestinians. By employing this very distinct term, a term that elicits powerful emotions in peoples and states, we believe the report to be a tactical step as part of a much broader strategy of delegitimisation...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

Mr. Yoseph Haddad: I thank the members of the committee for allowing me to address them on this important subject. In the past, the committee has heard from several speakers about my country, Israel, and the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians. I am here today as a private citizen of the State of Israel to share my experience and provide the truth about what is happening in Israel...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

Ruairi Ó Murchú: I welcome the fact that the Ireland-Israel Alliance has come before us to give testimony. It has contended that it believes this report is wrong in stating that Israel is an apartheid state. I will direct my questions to Ms Goodall. She obviously accepts that Israel has been occupying Palestinian lands for approximately 55 years.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

...thank an Cathaoirleach and members of the committee for the opportunity to speak. A major indictment against the report is the deliberate decontextualisation of a conflict. According to Amnesty, Israel was born out of the 1947 to 1949 conflict, thus creating the illusion that Jews used military aggression to take over the land. This is not true. Rather, the international community...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

...to be here and to have the opportunity to speak. I am even more than delighted to hear that the members of this committee want to hear the full picture and not only one side. I am an Arab-Israeli and I live in Israel; I am just visiting New York. I ask members not to get the impression that I am from New York or something like that. From the questions and from some of the data I have...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

Mr. Alan Shatter: I want to bring a message to this meeting because I have been watching the various, repetitive sessions saying same things repetitively about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The message is that words matter. Truth matters. We learned that through 30 years of conflict on this island. Words can contribute to bridge building, reconciliation and peace and understanding....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

Gerard Craughwell: I also resent the criticism of the committee as a whole. This committee has always tried to be balanced in everything it has done. I had a wonderful meeting with the Israeli ambassador yesterday and listened to many of her concerns about the future of the relationship between Ireland and Israel. I reject the notion of apartheid straight off. I do not take any side in the conflict. It is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

Ms Audrey Griffin: There are actually some Palestinians living in this country who are very much in favour of Israel and are advocates for it. I know of a lady who is afraid to speak up about it. I know of two others, who I have not met, but some on this panel know them, have met them or been emailed by them. I was speaking at a church some time back about my book, Hey, Ireland! Israel's...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

Ruairi Ó Murchú: There has obviously been a considerable amount of conversation with regard to Israel and its security. My argument or contention is that security can only be delivered if people can share a land and they will only get that when they have a deal with those with whom they share that land. The fact is people do not necessarily pick the leadership they deal with. Yes, there are huge issues...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

...the Palestinians are suffering. There is no doubt that the Palestinians are suffering from some human rights violations. The question is at whom we direct the accusation. Is it really truly at Israel? I was at a church meeting some weeks ago sharing about the book. Afterwards, I saw a Middle Eastern person walking up to me and I was wondering how this conversation was going to go and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

David Stanton: I will make a few points. First, obviously, it is very welcome that work is going on to normalise relations between Israel and certain Arab states, which has been mentioned. We always welcome that and look for more of it to happen, if possible. Second, it possibly goes without saying but it might need to be said that we reject violence from every side. Something we have always done in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

.... Finally, and this will be only four sentences, I wish to address the issue of vaccines. I am chairman of the Irish branch of Magen David Adom, which is the emergency medical response group in Israel. Any suggestion the Israeli Government deprived Palestinians of the Covid-19 vaccine is complete nonsense. At an early stage, the Israeli Government offered vaccines. The Palestinian...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

Joe O'Reilly: ..., a few things need to be said because I want to get to the substantive things in the Amnesty International report. While they have not been made today, suggestions that people who are critical of Israel are in some way anti-Semites could not be further from the truth. I can assure our guests of that. I can also assure them that, as the distinguished Chairman is aware, I studied history...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

Ned O'Sullivan: ...Taylor, who was Minister at the time. I chaired the Seanad last week in the absence of the Cathaoirleach and the Leas-Chathaoirleach and I listened to two speakers challenging and attacking the Israeli position on certain issues. As I was in the Chair, my hands were tied and I was unable to contribute. On the same day, however, it was announced that a sizeable number of Israeli citizens...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

Charles Flanagan: .... I reject any criticism of this committee. While criticism might be reserved for individual members of this committee, we are always keen to give every opportunity to groups such as the Ireland Israel Alliance to make their submission and attend our hearings. Our witnesses will be aware of the fact that since the Amnesty report was published earlier this year, Amnesty had an...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

Ruairi Ó Murchú: ...are Jewish-only settlements. There is a dual legal system within them. People have been thrown off these lands. There is an absolute separation and gap regarding the living conditions of these Israeli settlers and those Palestinian people. There is an absolute separation in respect of political rights, home demolitions and collective punishment. If all this is accepted, it is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

...the current reality and to end conflict? There are two things that can be done. We can avoid pandering to extremism and we can use the lessons of our own peace process. What is going on between Israelis and Palestinians is different but the lessons from our peace process are clear. If we genuinely want to see conflict resolved, as opposed to engaging in political point-scoring or...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Amnesty International's Report on Israel's Apartheid against Palestinians: Ireland Israel Alliance (5 Apr 2022)

David Stanton: ...for Human Rights being refused visas to visit the occupied Palestinian territories. Why is that the case? He cites people such as Ban Ki-moon, Desmond Tutu and a former Attorney General of Israel mentioning apartheid. His report is very strong. It contains three recommendations. He refers to the UN re-establishing a special committee against apartheid to investigate all and any...