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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: He had been there for a couple of years. Did he not feel that his position was undermined by the fact he had not been informed of the scale of these issues by people who are sitting here, some for longer than others? There were others in senior management of An Garda Síochána who knew about these issues but Mr. Howard was never informed. Does he feel he should have been informed?...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Given what Mr. Kelly said today, does he feel that his position in An Garda Síochána over a number of years has been undermined and does he feel that he was misled?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Does Mr. Barrett feel that Mr. Dunne reacted?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: It is just my question about feeling undermined that is left.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: No, I mean your office. Did Mr. Howard feel that the office was undermined?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: .... There is the letter of 30 June and there is confirmation of the meeting of 2 July. I thank Mr. Ruane. When he became aware of these issues after Mr. Barrett informed him, what did Mr. Ruane feel he had to do? In fairness to Deputy MacSharry, he has asked this question. Obviously the law is above any reporting structure.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: This was all live and happening at the same time. I have one other question for Mr. Ruane before I move on. Distinct from his legal advice, does he feel that the issues that were being revealed and confided to him, as he stated, by Mr. Barrett were of such serious consequence to An Garda Síochána that, if not acted upon immediately, they would be to the detriment of the Garda...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: ...he met Mr. Barrett. Did Mr. Howard not challenge the Commissioner, who is after all the Accounting Officer, as to why in the name of God he was not told about these issues before? Did he not feel he was being misled in not having been told about them? Did Mr. Howard make those points to the Commissioner or did he not? How could the chairman of the audit committee of An Garda...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Between now and - I will take the Chairman's guidance on this - one week from now, could Mr. Nugent ask everyone who he as the CAO feels appropriate or necessary and who has obligations under SIPO? We met on 4 May. Could Mr. Nugent ask every single person, and provide a list to this committee within a week or ten days, to state whether he or she has met his or her obligations under the...