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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: I thank the witnesses for attending. I have a couple of questions that have not been touched on. There has been discussion around legislation pertaining to dogs and there was a Government announcement this week. With regard to the Department of Rural and Community Development, are there any plans or discussions on what the new legislation might mean for the Department and any additional...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Ms Mary Hurley: We are lucky to have a member of the working group on dogs with us this morning as Paul Geraghty was on that group. The Deputy will have seen that there was the announcement this week in regard to the working group, which forwarded its report to Government. In regard to dogs, the proposal is around strengthening the enforcement piece, better dog ownership and people being...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: ...to other Government Departments. One of the criticisms we have encountered is the cross-departmental aspect of this work. There is the Department of Rural and Community Development in respect of dog breeding establishments, there is the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine and the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage, and then there is every local authority and...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Mr. Paul Geraghty: That group is very aware of the recommendation of the Oireachtas joint committee in regard to responsibilities resting with one entity for all of the dog control issues, and that is part of the ongoing discussion of the group as we develop these recommendations. We are very aware of the Deputy's position on it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: ...and electric vehicle grants as a case in point. It is not that we are opposed to grants for electric vehicles, but we can see how it is militating against rural Ireland. We will move on to dogs. Ms Hurley said more dog wardens will be employed. Will they be employed by the local authority?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: ...with service level agreements. The lines of accountability are very much flawed and blurred or maybe are weak or do not exist in some cases. I will ask Ms Hurley this question directly. Will dog wardens be contracted in or will they be employees of local authorities in order that there is a straight line of accountability?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Ms Mary Hurley: Each local authority will put its own arrangement in place with regard to the dog services.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Ms Mary Hurley: In general, local authorities have dog wardens who are employees.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Ms Mary Hurley: Yes, there are currently 60 dog wardens. The plan now is to put a further 40 dog wardens in place as quickly as possible. While arrangements may differ, local authorities are the responsible entities in respect of their arrangements regarding the various establishments and in respect of procedures around dogs. The overall ambition is that dog wardens would be employees of...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 42 - Rural and Community Development
Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2021
Chapter 6: Central Government Funding of Local Authorities
(30 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: The dog wardens have a very difficult job. It is important that there be a straight line of accountability in respect of the substantial funding spent by some local authorities on dog wardens or bodies that are providing the dog wardens. I call Deputy Catherine Murphy.

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