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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Jackie Cahill: ...from legal proceedings as a witness giving evidence from within the parliamentary precincts and may consider it appropriate to take legal advice on this matter. Privilege against defamation does not apply to publication by the witnesses outside the proceedings held by the committee of any matters arising from the proceedings. Members are reminded of the long-standing parliamentary...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

...are clear policy, market and consumer signals that this is an important issue and we must future-proof their interests through the indexes in line with these expectations. These new economic figures have been applied to the evaluations to make them more relevant. We need to ensure that the next generation of suckler animals that we are breeding are economically and environmentally...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Dr. Paul Crosson: I welcome the opportunity to discuss the economic values and the updates on the Teagasc beef systems model that were applied. I will give a small bit of background on the Teagasc beef model. It is a farm systems model so it is a bioeconomic model that describes the whole farm system in terms of its economic and environmental impacts. It is very widely published. It has...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

.... That is a matter of fact; it is nothing something somebody can just come up with. That is why we were real with the experts, through Dr. Crosson, in coming up with the economic values that are applied to the indexes. Those figures come from the CSO and research. It is not a matter opinion, fortunately.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Joe Flaherty: The crudest example is if I am looking at my herd, one in ten of my stock is going to get a very bad rating now on the basis of what is being applied for carbon, even though this is not what these indexes were set up to do. As the ICBF would say, these indexes are purely to reflect the profit value of progeny. Nowhere in the mandate or raison d'ĂȘtreof the ICBF, as a company, has...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Recent Reclassification of Beef Indexes: Discussion (13 Dec 2023)

Paul Daly: .... If I sell the other one to Senator Lombard or whoever else, he cannot get SCEP for her. She does not qualify. There must be legal complications in that regard? It is the same animal. When we applied for the scheme, it was a 4-star. Now, it is moved back to a 3-star, mid-scheme. If I keep my cow, I will be paid for five years. If I sell her to someone else, he will not get a...

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