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Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

David Cullinane: I wish to raise the issue of the corporation tax paid by Apple in this State in the past ten years or more. It has not been clarified. In fact, quite the opposite is the case. Many questions need to be answered. Senator Clune correctly mentioned our 12.5% corporation tax rate, but the majority of multinationals are not paying anything like 12.5%. There is no effective corporation tax...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

Sean Barrett: I wish to discuss the report by Senators Carl Levin and John McCain on the taxation habits of the Apple corporation in Cork. This is an extremely serious report of approximately 40,000 words and 152 detailed footnotes and references and it requires a response from us. I will give the House a flavour of it presently. The Fiscal Advisory Council should examine the issues involved such as how...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

Martin Conway: I, too, am concerned about the Apple situation and I agree with other speakers. This relates to both the integrity of our tax system and the integrity of our country abroad. We in this House and people all over Ireland benefit from the enormous advances in technology as a result of Apple, such as iPads, iPhones, and that type of thing. As a company, Apple has been ground-breaking in what...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: ...fodder crisis and the transport issues discussed last week? I do not believe the problems have been fully alleviated. I concur with Senator Whelan's comments. We do not always agree but we do on this occasion on his stance on the Apple issue. We seem to be comparing apples and oranges. In the next couple of weeks the Government intends to put its hands in people's pockets to take...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

Colm Burke: It relates to Apple and the contribution the company has made. Apple is not only paying 12.5% corporation tax. It is also paying commercial rates, VAT and all of the other taxes. The company also pays ESB when it purchases electricity. It pays for the employment it provides. If Senators want to have a debate on this matter, let us have a debate but let us also take into account the...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

Aideen Hayden: Like many in Ireland, I am proud of the prominent role played by Google and Apple in our economy. I accept the statements by the Tánaiste and the Taoiseach that we comply with all of the OECD requirements and are not designated as a tax haven. However, an explanation of two statements is required. According to Apple's CEO, incentive arrangements that it was offered in 1980 factored...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

David Cullinane: Some multinational companies are using this State in a chain of cash movements for the purpose of significant tax avoidance. The Government needs to clarify what arrangements are in place for Apple and other multinationals.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

John Kelly: It is important that we find out how long this has been going on and if it is true that it was negotiated by the Government, I assume it was by the previous one, as Apple has been in this country for ten years.

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

Trevor Ó Clochartaigh: Certainly, and I am asking for a debate. Is it possible to invite the chief executive officer of Apple or the head of its local operations to speak in the House on the issue?

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

Terry Leyden: I would like to second Senator Diarmuid Wilson's amendment to the motion. I agree with the views of Senator Deirdre Clune on the contribution that Apple makes to the Irish economy, with more than 3,500 people employed in Cork. I think we in this Chamber should invite Apple chief executive, Tim Cook, to this House and ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, Deputy...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

Catherine Noone: I support the other Senators on the issue of Apple. Clearly, the reputation of Ireland is at stake. It is timely. We are lucky that the Taoiseach is coincidentally in Europe today. He will be able to make statements on the issue and, hopefully, clarify the matter, as has been done by this Government in the more recent past on many other issues, so that our reputation can be corrected,...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

Mark Daly: ...the amendment to the Order of Business. I also ask the Leader to organise a debate on the corporation tax issue. Yesterday in the United States there was a very disturbing committee hearing on Apple and its tax affairs, and last week, in the House of Commons, there was a debate on the tax affairs of Google, with reference to Ireland. The British Parliament wants to have a spotlight...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

John Whelan: ...the UK with what was regarded as a very attractive 12.5% corporation tax. Maybe I naively thought that this tax rate was being paid by multinationals but it has been proven otherwise. It not just Apple as the issue involves Starbucks, Google and Facebook. Of course, we welcome the jobs but are we saying we will have the jobs but the companies do not have to pay the 12.5% tax rate? The...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

Deirdre Clune: .... Our corporation tax rate is 12.5% and we have agreements with 69 countries on taxation measures. Everybody must be careful about soundbites in this area because it is a serious situation. Apple employs 3,500 people in Cork and many other companies also have large employment bases here. It is a complex issue and a soundbite will not provide an answer. From having also heard the...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

Maurice Cummins: ...Provisions) Bill which will be discussed soon in the House. Senator Barrett and the vast majority of Senators raised a report on comments made at US Senate sub-committee hearings about Apple and taxation. I want to make it clear, as the Taoiseach, the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, Deputy Gilmore, and the Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation, Deputy...

Seanad: Order of Business (22 May 2013)

Terry Leyden: ...ánaiste is available to come and explain the situation. Let us show the files. The files are there and they are open. This is serious. When I hear Members of this House making points about Google, Apple and such companies without being conscious of the fact that Steven Paul Jobs co-founded that company, as a person who was then a Deputy and Minister of State in 1980, I know the...

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