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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Thomas Pringle: The SFPA will only implement what the Commission tells it to do.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Tim Lombard: At some stage, though, the SFPA will come back to the committee with details of the plan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Tim Lombard: I do not want to get into specifics, but in the permanent control plan some thought will be put into how the SFPA will deal with this issue. Is that fair?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Tim Lombard: Mr. Hayes used a phrase in one of his contributions that suggested there is a healthy friction between the SFPA and the fishing industry. What was that phrase? He had some-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

...of Public Expenditure and Reform has set out a code of practice for the governance of State agencies. There is an arrangement in the shape of a performance contract between the Department and SFPA, as set out under that code of practice for the corporate governance of State agencies.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Thomas Pringle: ...their contributions and responses. Landings at Killybegs have been paused because the season has ended, probably until November or thereabouts, so there is time to resolve the issue between the SFPA and the fishing industry. What does the authority envisage doing over the coming months to resolve the issue once and for all?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Mr. Paschal Hayes: I am the executive chairman. The structure that is set out under the Sea-Fisheries and Maritime Jurisdiction Act 2006 is such that the SFPA comprises at least one and up to three members. From among those members, the Minister selects a chairperson and that is me. As it happens, I am also the only member, as we speak today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Pearse Doherty: We all want an accurate count. Will Mr. Hayes please talk to me about the procedure? Take the context as read. I want an accurate count. I want the SFPA to do its job to make sure that it is an accurate count. Take that as read. I am asking about procedures and then I will come to the weighing mechanisms in Killybegs.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Michael Collins: Yes, but this is something the organisations are concerned with. The SFPA has consistently stated that it wishes to work with the organisations. I could be wrong here and perhaps it has a great relationship with all the representative organisations. We certainly need to know, however, if there is a better relationship with one above another, because that is not what is being said out there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Thomas Pringle: ...the next period? In respect of the final control plan that has gone to the Commission, if we or the industry decide on something or something workable comes out of this committee talking to the SFPA, it is the Commission or the European structures that will make the decision as to whether it will be acceptable.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Michael Collins: Thank you. The "Yes" was perfect. When the SFPA takes the owner of a fishing vessel to court, it is represented by two senior civil servants. Am I right in saying this? These are Cecil Beamish and Josephine Kelly from the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine. Has this been the case during the last five years? Again, I ask Mr. Hayes for a yes-no answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Mr. Miche?l O'Mahony: Our job is control. Compliance is not ours to give but the industry's. Compliance arises from the actions of industry and not from the SFPA. Our job is to have a control system that minimises those risks. We had an array of controls, highlighted by Deputy Mac Lochlainn, including, for example, CCTVs and other significant controls. The view of the auditors was there...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Pearse Doherty: ...Protection Authority satisfy itself whether that is happening or not? It went out of its way in some way to find out that it did not happen. I am not suggesting that it did not happen but the SFPA obviously assumed that it did not happen because as a result of that, it took the weighing licences off two operators in Killybegs.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: ...of Ireland or Great Britain but very substantial numbers of landings have come through the North over the years. My understanding is that since 1983, there have been around 5,000 per annum. The SFPA has been in existence since 2006. How many licences for permits for weighing landings that came through the North has it removed during this period?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Pádraig Mac Lochlainn: ...questions concern CCTV. I have witnessed the following with my own eyes in terms of a factory in Killybegs. I understand that there are ten CCTV cameras in one factory that are accessible to the SFPA officials at all times. It means that they can sit in their office in Killybegs and in real time monitor the weighing and the operations that take place within the factory. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Mr. Paschal Hayes: The SFPA is an agency that is independent in the performance of its duties. Its role is set out by this House under the 2006 Act. Our funding comes through the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine via its Vote, which is allocated by this House. The Department has responsibility for the corporate governance of the organisation, but that is the only role the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Mr. Paschal Hayes: The SFPA's duty is to implement the laws passed by this House, encompassing both Irish and EU regulations. Committee members are no doubt aware that weighing provisions are among the considerations of an ongoing revision of the EU fishery control regulation. If new or amended laws and regulations pertaining to the sea fisheries and seafood sectors are passed by this...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

Pearse Doherty: ...and a loss of jobs in my community in Donegal. It could have widespread implications in other areas. The opening statement referred to a campaign of disinformation or misinformation regarding the SFPA and the provisions of the Northern Ireland protocol. Since we are talking about Article 61(1), what is the status of the North regarding Regulation No. 1224/2009?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

...prepared to enter into a lease arrangement. We have not heard anything different in the meantime. The Deputy read out the judgment from the High Court case. It was not the court's view that the SFPA or any other State body should take ownership of the pier-side weighing device. It was the court's view that we were acting ultra viresby not permitting the pier-side weighing device. It...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Weighing of Fisheries Products: Discussion (18 May 2022)

...start with the Deputy's correct statement that we all have an interest in sustainability. I think he left himself out of that. Legislators have a big role in sustainability. As a regulator, the SFPA does the bidding of the legislators. Legislators have a huge role in regard to sustainability going forward. I will turn to the options that are available. The Deputy is dead right when...

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