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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: .... Is Ms McPhillips aware if concern has ever been expressed internally about the way in which serious volumes of money are spent on IT contracts and the way in which procurement is ongoing in An Garda Síochána?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ...aware of that. That is not what I am asking Ms McPhillips. I am asking her or anyone else from the Department if any concern was ever expressed to anyone internally on the contracts for IT in An Garda Síochána. If there was not, she should just say so.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ...future. I believe that this will require an external investigation on the scale of the projects, the tendering or lack thereof, the verbal sign-off on contracts, the volume of people on site in An Garda Síochána, and the manner in which those people were allowed access on site. I believe there are issues here on taxpayers' money, security, and tendering-procurement across the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 13 - Development of ICT Systems by the Department of Justice and Equality
Vote 24: Justice and Equality
(26 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ...in place? It was a suggestion from the person in the Department. Is there a process in place, which has been outlined to staff, whereby staff can elevate issues? It is very similar to the Garda Commissioner's role in section 41. Is there a process internally, which has been communicated to staff, whereby staff can elevate something to Ms McPhillips or the Minister without having to go...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ...the questions from colleagues. Mr. Nugent is getting back to people. He cannot answer them directly so it breaks the thread of questioning. It means we have to chase information and wait for An Garda Síochána to get back to us. I have been through this before and have seen some of the answers that have come back. They are quite short. There is no way of continuing the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Nugent is not a ranking garda.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ...it to be the case and I will not stop until it happens because it is absolutely necessary. I am glad Mr. Nugent is here. I agree with him that the attendance of a high-ranking civilian in An Garda Síochána is necessary at a committee like this. The issue we raised before and which came up again with the Policing Authority related to Mr. Nugent's statements regarding his...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: There was no Garda documentation whatsoever.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ...it again. I would like to ask a double-barrelled, quick-fire question to all the witnesses. We can start at the front. It requires a "Yes" or "No" answer. Did the witnesses in their work for An Garda Síochána ever send or receive any official Garda documentation to or from a Gmail or private email account? Did the witnesses ever send any official documentation to any...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ...circumstances that is fine too. I just want an answer to the specific question: did the witnesses in their work ever have an opportunity or situation where they had to send an email with official Garda documents to any colleague's private email address or did they ever receive official documentation from a colleague’s private email address, whether civilians in the force or ranked...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ...I want to know that. There are people here who have had different jobs and have moved on in their careers, congratulations, well done and all that. There are people who worked in the Garda Commissioner's office. Did they ever send or receive official documentation to or from private email accounts of colleagues in any way, shape or form?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ...senior person here, does Mr. Nugent believe when he sees their evidence and the way they answered the questions – and I have no doubt he either watched it or read the Official Report – that An Garda Síochána treated them appropriately or fairly?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: Yes. A case was reported, and it is in the public domain, of a sergeant suspended after working in Bray Garda station. I am just thinking of the taxpayer. There were four inquiries into this lady. There was also a case in which she was found innocent. I am not getting into any of those details. However, from the taxpayer's point of view, after five years this issue should either come to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ..., it is extraordinary that somebody can be suspended for five years, that the issue has not been concluded and that the taxpayer is picking up the bill. I just want to know how many members of the Garda are in this position. I am just using this case as an example. Why has An Garda Síochána not been able to bring these issues to a conclusion? The taxpayer is picking up the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: My next question relates to evidence given in respect of Bray Garda station. I refer to the photograph of the evidence room in Bray Garda station in 2012 which I am holding up. This has been published in the media. I showed it to people when it was in the newspaper and they thought it was a photograph of a skip. There has been an internal review through the professional standards unit and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: I accept that it was 2012 but I point out that many of the issues with which we have been dealing in respect of An Garda Síochána and policing relate to that same time period. I will raise one last topic. I was very interested to hear Mr. Nugent's discussion with one of my colleagues in respect of protected disclosures. Obviously I do not want anyone to go into the details of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ...Is the issue concluded? If so, will the outcome of the investigation be reported? Will the actions from the investigation be delivered? Was there ever any contact from any civil servant with An Garda Síochána in respect of this issue? I do not expect Mr. Nugent to be able to answer these questions here and now. I would appreciate if he would send a response to the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: Was any civil servant ever in contact with An Garda Síochána in respect of this issue?

Priority Questions: Commissions of Investigation (17 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ...xe1;naiste and Minister for Justice and Equality if he is satisfied that his Department provided full information to and co-operated fully with the O’Higgins commission and the O’Neill report into Garda whistleblower claims; and if he has asked his officials for assurances regarding same. [16448/18]

Priority Questions: Commissions of Investigation (17 Apr 2018)

Alan Kelly: ...that is now in the public domain, is the Minister satisfied that his Department provided full information and co-operated fully with both the O'Higgins commission and the O'Neill report into Garda whistleblower claims and has he asked his officials for absolute assurances on same?

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