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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Mr. Kevin Bakhurst: McCann Fitzgerald is carrying out that report. I asked for it by the end of September. They came back to me a couple of weeks before that and said that they had more paperwork to go through than they had expected and they also had some interviews with individuals to carry out and they asked for an extension of several weeks to do that. I said that was disappointing but...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Imelda Munster: I will start with the McCann Fitzgerald report and the correspondence the committee was furnished with. The severance package schemes date from 2017 to 2021. What amounts are we talking about and what sort of positions, primarily, were the focus?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Ms Eimear Cusack: The rules of the two schemes were slightly different. However, what I would say is that how all of the decisions were arrived at would be part of the McCann Fitzgerald report and that will be made very clear-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Mr. Kevin Bakhurst: This is one of the reasons I commissioned the McCann Fitzgerald report, to look into the details of these packages.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: ...is what we are interested in doing here. There is an element of the return of the circus here this morning. I know other committee members share my frustration that we do not have that McCann FitzGerald report, which was going to be a substantial piece of work that we could have used in interrogating this decision.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Mr. Kevin Bakhurst: I apologise for that. I explained the delay, which was a request from McCann FitzGerald in terms of getting the full facts to deliver that report. It was not my intention because I asked for it by the end of September.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Cormac Devlin: I welcome our witnesses. My first question is for Mr. Bakhurst. Many questions have been asked about the agreement and indeed the McCann FitzGerald report. Can I just get clarity? As far as I am aware there are reports by Mazars, Grant Thornton and McCann FitzGerald. Are all the big firms employed now by RTÉ for reviews? How many are under way?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Were the Mazars, Grant Thornton and McCann FitzGerald reviews initiated by RTÉ directly or did the Department initiate them?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Cormac Devlin: Can I just ask about the McCann FitzGerald report? We scheduled this meeting in advance of the summer hoping we would have it by now. I understand it is out of Mr. Bakhurst's hands but it is expected. Does he have an estimated time of when it is due to be complete?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): Discussion (12 Oct 2023)

Alan Kelly: ...not advertised. Will the witnesses indicate which roles were not advertised and the reasons for that? I have three other points. I accept what the witnesses have said in regard to the McCann FitzGerald report. I know they would prefer it to be done today because there is no way they want to be back here in a month's time.

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