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Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Michael McDowell: Is Senator Buttimer suggesting that the Council of Europe, which has condemned this Bill, is a vested interest? Is the Senator suggesting that the European Commission, which condemned this Bill, is a vested interest? Is he ignoring the fact, as I think he is, that a memorandum from the Department of Justice and Equality was recently released under the Freedom of Information Act, which...

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Discussion should be relevant to the section.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: He does it every day.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: He is doing it again.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: This is not relevant to the section.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

David Norris: I beg the Leader's pardon? I am in a slight confusion. Is the Chair chairing the debate or is Senator Buttimer?

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

David Norris: I see. I shall obey the Chair's instructions in that case and ignore the interruptions from Senator Buttimer. I am happy to yield to my colleague, Senator McDowell, who I am sure is going to enlighten us further.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: On a point of order, I did not accuse the Senator of anything whatever.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: What did I say about conservatives and liberals? I said we have not gone down the American route of asking whether judges are liberal or conservative. I never mentioned Senator McDowell.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Michael McDowell: Senator Buttimer is forgetting what he actually did say. He talked about vested interests who are opposed to any change.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: There are such interests.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: If the Senator does not know who they are-----

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Senator McDowell should reflect on who is against the Bill.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Michael McDowell: Senator Buttimer can respond. Is he suggesting that the Council of Europe-----

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I knew the Senator would pick up on that.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The Senator knows.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: There is no amnesia on my part.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I ask Senator to withdraw the word "bullying" in respect of the proposition for the Order of Business.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: He used the phrase and implied as much.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The Senator knows well that we operate by consensus, in the main. If the Senator analysed the give and take in this House, he would say that the Leader lost more than he has won.

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