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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Disability Matters: Rights-Based Care for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Michael Moynihan: ...of disability services and Martina Queally, chief officer of community healthcare organisation, CHO, 6. We also have representatives from Tusla: Ms Kate Duggan, chief executive officer; Mr. Pat Smyth, national director of finance and corporate services and Ms Clare Murphy, interim national director of services. I remind witnesses of the long-standing parliamentary practice that you...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Disability Matters: Rights-Based Care for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Ms Clare Murphy: I thank the Chair and members of the committee for the invitation to appear here today. I am joined by Ms Kate Duggan, chief executive officer and Mr. Pat Smyth, national director for finance and corporate services. Tusla, the Child and Family Agency, is responsible for the provision of the statutory service for child protection and welfare services across the country. In...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Disability Matters: Rights-Based Care for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Mr. Pat Smyth: The Senator asked what can he do, which is sometimes a dangerous question to ask. From Tusla's perspective, we are always conscious of the fact that we are in loco parentisfor 5,500 kids whose constitutional rights have been failed. The State has, therefore, taken over their care from their families. One of our biggest needs is to ensure that those kids, because they are...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Disability Matters: Rights-Based Care for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Mr. Pat Smyth: From Tusla's perspective, obviously where there is a child protection issue, we have children who are in accommodation with disabilities. At the moment, we have got approximately 70 kids in those placements and in the majority of those cases, Tusla will agree to take on the care of those kids through the joint protocol. Tusla are the main owners of the placements in those...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Disability Matters: Rights-Based Care for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Mr. Pat Smyth: I will give an answer on CARI on behalf of Ms Duggan. It is important to say we are in discussions with CARI all the time. The services it currently delivers are only partly funded, and have only ever been partly funded, by Tusla. We have worked with CARI over the last number of years to increase those services, but a lot of its services were previously funded through...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Disability Matters: Rights-Based Care for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Mr. Pat Smyth: There is a process there and quite a bit of funding in there already, but we accept that a lot of that funding is once-off. However, it has not been State funding to date so what CARI is looking for is an increase in the State funding to deliver those services.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Disability Matters: Rights-Based Care for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Nov 2023)

Mr. Pat Smyth: There is no reduction in help.

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