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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: ...the repeal of that section by section 6, (ii) in relation to, and for the purposes of, a notice published under the said section 45 before the repeal of that section by section 6, and (iii) in relation to land to which an order referred to in paragraph (b) applies, and (b) an order under subsection (5) of the said section 45 in force immediately before the repeal of that section by...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: ...implemented; “measure” includes a restriction; “noise” means aircraft noise; “noise abatement objective” means the noise abatement objective for the airport; “noise mitigation measure” means a noise mitigation measure in place at the airport and includes— (a) a land-use planning and management measure intended to reduce...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: ...by the ESRI. In the autumn we will publish new housing targets that will filter down to all local authorities, along with changes to the NPF. It may require in some areas additional zonings of land to provide the housing we need. Regarding the amendment, the provision I have brought forward is exactly what was in the 2000 Act. The phrase "a planning authority" includes the members. I...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: ...that. I support amendment No. 892. It is an excellent amendment. There is a huge amount that can be done in the area of community-led housing organisations, housing co-operatives and community land trusts. I do not think anybody is suggesting that all housing supply will come from this, but it could be a hugely valuable part of housing supply. It has the advantages Deputy Duffy...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: ...new regime, any community-led housing organisation will need to be approved by the Approved Housing Body Regulatory Authority, AHBRA. I have had good meetings with a couple of organisations in Ireland and my officials recently had a follow-up meeting with them. They would be approved by AHBRA. They would have to be approved in order to operate anyway and that is right and proper. ...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Francis Noel Duffy: Do community land trusts come under the umbrella of approved housing bodies if they are registered?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: ...is aware of the job we had to do. There were lots of different housing bodies on paper which were all well-meaning but effectively defunct. That is why the AHBRA regime is much better. Community land trusts would be covered because of the work done under the Affordable Housing Act.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Darragh O'Brien: ...census data, that we will have a revision in our housing targets. I expect that will lead in areas the Deputies represent, and local authority areas in which they reside, to a need to bring more zones and more land forward in that regard. I genuinely believe that we are more than well covered with what we have, so I am not accepting either amendment.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: ...compact growth not to have the tenure choice in home ownership. Since Independence, the State has invested massively into home ownership, in breaking up larger holdings and the redistribution of land. Huge resources went into that. We achieved 80% home ownership levels and now we have the lowest level of home ownership in more than 50 years. We need to do something about treating...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: ...area is a sense of the current housing need demand by tenure, topology, age, life cycle and disability. That is what is done in other jurisdictions, albeit not perfectly. For example, Scotland uses the housing need demand assessment at a granular level better than we do. However, we do not do that here. That means that our planning authorities are making decisions with one hand tied...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: ...the needs of families, individuals and communities? Should that not come first in planning, rather than being trumped by the needs of institutional investors? A huge part of public policy in Ireland is investment by governments from the 1920s onwards. You can debate whether this was the right or wrong place to put investment, but a vast amount of public resources went into land...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Richard Boyd Barrett: ...that, "In page 405... subject to subsection (12), a housing strategy shall provide that [as a general policy] a specified percentage". The Government says this should not be more than 20% of the land zoned. The Government is saying what is now Part VII provision for social and affordable is not to be more than 20%. I propose to amend that to say it shall not be less than 20% for social...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: ...behind what is, in my view, a poor interpretation of the judgment. The second thing is viability. This is one of the greatest canards in the whole debate. Part V actually reduces the market value of the land. As a consequence of reducing the market value of the land, it makes the developments more viable. As the Minister of State will know from his own experience, for the portion of...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: On viability, not only does Part V assist with viability by putting downward pressure on land prices, it also helps with the viability of projects in terms of there being a certain percentage of guaranteed sales that the developer knows it will get. That helps with financing of the project and its entire viability because the developer is guaranteed 20% upfront sales. That helps developers...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: But only on public land. If it acquires private land, it has a flexibility in that regard. Is that correct?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Niall Collins: Amendment No. 914 seeks to delete section 224(2)(b) which gives local authorities the option of accepting houses in lieu of land. We cannot accept this proposed amendment as it is important for local authorities to have as many options as possible available to them when negotiating a Part V agreement, including the provision of houses off-site for reasons of affordability and suitability. ...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Niall Collins: ...of what the Deputy referred to is going to be the remit of the LDA. We think that section 377, as it stands, already in the Bill is pretty adequate in respect of where a local authority can CPO land for its housing strategy. We are not, therefore, accepting the Deputy's amendment.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Cian O'Callaghan: ...used, because it is rarely used now, as the Minister of State will know. The CPO powers in this section, which are similar to those in the existing legislation, allow local authorities to buy up land needed for housing. This is good. The problem is this power is not being used. What I am seeking to ensure, therefore, is that it is used. I am not seeking to have people's lands acquired...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: ...compensation should require market value, especially when there is such a gap between the existing-use value and the market value. One of the reasons our local authorities are less likely to CPO land for housing is that it is prohibitively expensive. This is why two Law Reform Commission reports have strongly recommended reform in this area, among other things. My second point is that...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Apr 2024)

Niall Collins: ...a report on CPO reform and the Government is committed to reviewing it and bringing forward legislation if needed, which would include changes to the CPO process in planning. In addition, a land value sharing Bill is being prepared and it will come forward as a stand-alone Bill.