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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: European Year of Skills 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (30 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: My first question will build on Deputy Farrell's question a bit. I have seen it reported in the media that 3,376 people who engaged in craft apprenticeships failed to finish courses between 2021 and 2023. Is that figure is correct? Are we researching why people are dropping out of these craft apprenticeships? Are we doing anything in terms of retention measures? On lifelong learning...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: European Year of Skills 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (30 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Perhaps I will refocus that question. The question asked whether we are researching the profile of the courses being offered in some of those leading countries and if they match what Ireland is doing. I will come back to a personal example. I am unlikely to take an apprenticeship as an electrician at this point in my life. I am entirely likely to go back and study something else. I might...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: European Year of Skills 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (30 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I am conscious of time and I am aware the Cathaoirleach runs a tight ship. I asked a question also about those 3,376 people who failed to complete a craft apprenticeship. Can we have information on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: European Year of Skills 2023: Discussion (Resumed) (30 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: If my maths was better I would be able to render it as a percentage but it is a very low percentage drop out rate. If it is 1,526 out of 66,525 it is a very low percentage.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: In the first instance, I have a sense that we are in a better place than we were the last time IFI appeared before this committee in July. There is a sense here of an organisation emerging from a crisis. The Minister's intervention, in terms of discharging the previous board on a no-fault basis, put us in a position where we could rebuild. I have a couple of questions but before posing...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Okay, so it is meeting on a very regular basis.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: There would normally be five members on the audit and risk committee, constituted from the board. Has that committee been reconstituted?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Who are the other four members of that committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Is it still the case that the committee is meeting before regular board meetings?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: That has been split so that there is not the same-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: It resulted in very long meetings.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: That is good. That was one of the EY recommendations. Of course, an important member of the board should be the CEO who acts in an ex officio capacity, involving full participation and voting rights. As deputy CEO, is Dr. Gallagher able to attend board meetings, with full voting capacity?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Dr. Gallagher is attending but does not have voting privileges. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: That is an issue. I want to explore a small ambiguity in the opening statement. Dr. Gallagher said that Mr. O'Donnell is ill and continues to be on leave. Is that illness leave?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: There is an ambiguity in the statement, which reads, "As advised to the Committee in advance of the March meeting by the CEO, Mr O’Donnell is ill and continues to be on leave." On a cursory reading, I would interpret that as meaning that he continues to be on sick leave. However, Dr. Gallagher does not wish to confirm to the committee today that the nature of his leave is illness...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Would Dr. Gallagher agree that there is a difference in tone between what is in his opening statement and what he is saying now?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I find myself in a difficult position. Maybe it is a question for the board to answer or for Mr. Collins, as chairman, to answer, but I do not have Mr. Collins in front of me so I will move on. I want to go back to a line of questioning that I explored on the last occasion relating to the change of base from Citywest to Ballyshannon. We want to put a lot of this stuff behind us, but it was...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: We have nothing either to the fact. If Ms Campion has nothing to the contrary, we have nothing to the fact. Is there any written record?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: But it would not be a function of the previous head of HR to approve of a change of contract.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: Inland Fisheries Ireland (25 Apr 2024)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: So there is no written report of Mr. Gorman having approved it. In fact, it would not have been within the remit of Mr. Gorman to make it on a unilateral basis in any case.

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