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Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: I appreciate the Minister of State's bona fides on this issue. I know she wants to make it work. This situation has been going on for 50 years. I and others fought hard to have this committee established. It was set up on foot of a Cabinet decision. Its title is the Seanad Select Committee on the Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments. The title reflects what we are supposed...

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: We are being told we are not allowed to see the legislation that is about to be signed into law. If I am wrong on this, I will stand corrected. The legislation we are discussing is analogous to laws initiated by the Oireachtas. In that case, a process of over-and-back engagement is fine. We have White Papers, pre-legislative scrutiny and so on. We are all familiar with that process....

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: Will the Cathaoirleach not allow everyone in before calling the Minister of State? It is up to him. I know she has to leave. I appreciate she is genuine.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: That is not what I am saying. What I am saying is that all the processes are being followed but the final legislation, which could have different wording, is not allowed to be scrutinised by TDs, Senators, this committee or the sectoral committees that are supposed to examine such matters.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: I must respond to that.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: I know the Minister of State was given a note by her officials. What she referred to has happened once in the history of the State. It is laid before the library. It requires a process that has happened once, and even that did not sustain itself. In the context of comments to the effect that it can be put on the record and we can annul it afterwards, we do not want to annul legislation....

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: We are not given the law that is about to be signed into place.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: I appreciate that.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: The point is this: what the Attorney General is effectively saying is that TDs and Senators are not allowed to see that law before it becomes law. Am I misinterpreting anything? We are being told that the draft regulation the Minister gets is privileged, that when the Minister puts his or her signature to it, it becomes law, that TDs and Senators are not allowed to see it, scrutinise it or...

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: -----and that, when the Minister signs it, we can look at it then and only then.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: We have not even received a draft statutory instrument from any Department.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: The committee-----

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: We have not received one. Am I correct, a Chathaoirligh?

National Vetting Bureau (Children and Vulnerable Persons) (Amendment) Bill 2022: Second Stage [Private Members] (11 Jul 2024)

Réada Cronin: I accept everything the Minister of State said. The Bill is about making sure children and vulnerable adults are safe. That is what is most important. There are different areas of risk. The Bill's provisions are relevant to people going for certain jobs or looking to do volunteering. During the Covid period, there were people in my area delivering food shopping to older people living...

National Vetting Bureau (Children and Vulnerable Persons) (Amendment) Bill 2022: Second Stage [Private Members] (11 Jul 2024)

Paul Donnelly: I do not have much to add to what has been said by my colleagues. This important Bill needs to progress. I hope it is done in a speedy manner and that we have the opportunity to get it passed before the general election. I am not pre-empting the calling of the election. Perhaps the Minister of State will tell us today whether it will happen in September or October. I wish all my...

National Vetting Bureau (Children and Vulnerable Persons) (Amendment) Bill 2022: Second Stage [Private Members] (11 Jul 2024)

Ruairi Ó Murchú: This is vital legislation. We must ensure we have absolute due diligence and a streamlined process in regard to vetting. I am saying more than I usually would while in the Chair. I received a telephone call just before the debate started concerning a new facility in County Louth to deal with vulnerable children. The caller is dealing with a particular issue and asked me whether I know...

National Vetting Bureau (Children and Vulnerable Persons) (Amendment) Bill 2022: Second Stage [Private Members] (11 Jul 2024)

Question put and declared carried.

National Vetting Bureau (Children and Vulnerable Persons) (Amendment) Bill 2022: Second Stage [Private Members] (11 Jul 2024)

Cuireadh an Dáil ar athló ar 7.13 p.m. go dtí 2 p.m., Dé Céadaoin, an 18 Meán Fómhair 2024. The Dáil adjourned at at 7.13 p.m. until 2 p.m. on Wednesday, 18 September 2024.

National Vetting Bureau (Children and Vulnerable Persons) (Amendment) Bill 2022: Second Stage [Private Members] (11 Jul 2024)

Jennifer Carroll MacNeill: I am greatly encouraged to see that Deputy Ó Snodaigh takes the same approach to volunteering as I do, which is that we do enough public service here. I cannot be baking tray-bakes and that. Perhaps when the electorate decides I need more time to bake tray-bakes and volunteer in different ways, I will spend my time doing that as well. In the meantime, I feel like I have a pass and now...

National Vetting Bureau (Children and Vulnerable Persons) (Amendment) Bill 2022: Second Stage [Private Members] (11 Jul 2024)

Pa Daly: I am sharing time with my colleagues. I thank them for their contributions. I also thank the Minister of State and her officials. We, too, would hope to work with the Government. I note some of the issues the Minister of State has raised. I await with interest the review or report which is going to be published presently. I understand what she is saying about the difference in risk...

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