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Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: I appreciate the Minister of State's bona fides on this issue. I know she wants to make it work. This situation has been going on for 50 years. I and others fought hard to have this committee established. It was set up on foot of a Cabinet decision. Its title is the Seanad Select Committee on the Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments. The title reflects what we are supposed...

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: We are being told we are not allowed to see the legislation that is about to be signed into law. If I am wrong on this, I will stand corrected. The legislation we are discussing is analogous to laws initiated by the Oireachtas. In that case, a process of over-and-back engagement is fine. We have White Papers, pre-legislative scrutiny and so on. We are all familiar with that process....

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: Will the Cathaoirleach not allow everyone in before calling the Minister of State? It is up to him. I know she has to leave. I appreciate she is genuine.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: That is not what I am saying. What I am saying is that all the processes are being followed but the final legislation, which could have different wording, is not allowed to be scrutinised by TDs, Senators, this committee or the sectoral committees that are supposed to examine such matters.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: I must respond to that.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: I know the Minister of State was given a note by her officials. What she referred to has happened once in the history of the State. It is laid before the library. It requires a process that has happened once, and even that did not sustain itself. In the context of comments to the effect that it can be put on the record and we can annul it afterwards, we do not want to annul legislation....

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: We are not given the law that is about to be signed into place.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: I appreciate that.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: The point is this: what the Attorney General is effectively saying is that TDs and Senators are not allowed to see that law before it becomes law. Am I misinterpreting anything? We are being told that the draft regulation the Minister gets is privileged, that when the Minister puts his or her signature to it, it becomes law, that TDs and Senators are not allowed to see it, scrutinise it or...

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: -----and that, when the Minister signs it, we can look at it then and only then.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: We have not even received a draft statutory instrument from any Department.

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: The committee-----

Committee on Scrutiny of Draft EU-related Statutory Instruments: Engagement with Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: We have not received one. Am I correct, a Chathaoirligh?

Seanad: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: Senators' contributions must relate to the Bill. I know that what Senator Dolan is talking about relates to planning but she must relate it to the amendments under discussion.

Seanad: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: I welcome to the Distinguished Visitors' Gallery the Jackson family from Boston and New York. They are most welcome and I thank them for coming to Seanad Éireann today.

Seanad: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: Through the Chair.

Seanad: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: All right.

Seanad: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: Through the Chair.

Seanad: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: Please, through the Chair.

Seanad: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (17 Jul 2024)

Mark Daly: Under Standing Order 39, an intervention can be asked for, if Senator Garvey allows it.

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