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Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: The information that has been given in relation to 47 should have included the fact that there were people other than those referred by the HSE and the SEHB, because that concealed the fact that there was another channel of referrals, which should have been referred to in all of this. I want to move on-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: Where does it identify the totality?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: Page 5 of which document?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: It is certainly not there on page 5. I see the table, but it does not show the origins or the referrals.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: Why is Mr. Healy saying it is doing it, then? It is not doing it.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: Thirty-six service users.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: If Mr. Healy is saying that is clear about the nine families-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: I know what the purpose is. What I am pointing out-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: I do not want to dwell on it much longer. The document Mr. Healy sent to us clearly indicated that no individuals had been placed in this foster home since 1995 and that the totality of those who were there was described by the South Eastern Health Board, the HSE and the voluntary service providers. Now he is giving an apology. Why should he be apologising to these people when he had...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: That is not what it is. That is what Mr. Healy is saying.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: Sorry, I am not going to dwell any longer on it. All I am saying is that the report submitted to the Committee of Public Accounts did not say a word on the outside about being a Resilience report.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: The point I am making is that misleading information was given to this committee. That is what happened at our last meeting as well. Misleading information was given to us at the previous meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: There was a categorical statement that people had gone to the service user and that they had made an apology. The two people who met the service user and the birth mother have declared categorically that they were not asked to make an apology. Is that a fabrication? Who actually wrote the note that came to us on 21 January?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: The note described something that did not happen. I refer to the non-apology.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: It described in graphic and detailed terms how an apology that never took place was supposed to have taken place and how two people went along to make the apology. We know now that no apology ever took place. Maybe there was some expression of regret, but there was supposed to be an apology, as outlined by Mr. O'Brien today. It never happened. Surely that is misleading.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: That is accepted now. We were misled-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: -----by whoever wrote that particular-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: Can I ask a further question? Mr. Healy is taking responsibility for an inaccurate and misleading note that was rushed to the Committee of Public Accounts to counter an article that had been published in the Irish Examiner. Is that correct? Mr. Healy never checked his facts.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: All he needed to do was to ask the two people who were alleged to have spoken and to have given the apology whether they had done so. They have said not only that they did not give an apology, but also that they were not asked to give an apology.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: I refer to the note we received from the Waterford Intellectual Disability Association. It states that:The two HSE representatives to whom the HSE have attributed the apologies to our client and to her mother have both confirmed to us that they were never asked to apologise, that they did not apologise, and they told the HSE chief officer that no apologies were given, yet the HSE continued...

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