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Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: Was the HSE aware of anyone else being placed in a private capacity?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: We are not necessarily discussing the Resilience report, but the actual situation that pertained since 1995.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: Sorry?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: The HSE had no further information about anyone else going in any other capacity to-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: Was the HSE aware of anyone else being put there in any capacity? Is that the full story now?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: Mr. O'Brien is telling me what the full story is from the Resilience report.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: I am aware of the Resilience report and its commissioning, but I will move on.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: Did the HSE give us the full story on 10 December? The impression that was clearly given was that no individuals had been placed - to the letter of the law, that was accurate - by the South Eastern Health Board, the HSE or any voluntary service provider, but that was not the full story. Was the HSE aware at the time of a broader story of private placements that whoever wrote this chose not...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: Why did the report used to brief the Committee of Public Accounts not contain that extra information? We are discussing vulnerable people in the care of an institution that we were given the impression no one was in after 1995.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: I know, but no one-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: This conceals the fact that other people were there. It gives the impression that the only people who were going there were the ones who were coming either from the SEHB, the HSE or the voluntary service providers. Now we know that other people were there. We could not have known it from the information provided by the HSE.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: The witnesses cannot just rely on the-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: I am well aware of that, but this briefing-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: I have not asked Mr. Healy about that case yet. Why was further information not divulged to us about other people who were there subsequently, having been placed in a private capacity and of whom the HSE was aware? It had read the Resilience report, which referred to this matter, but the HSE did not advert to it.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: We were discussing the totality of vulnerable people who were in that foster home. Mr. Healy gives the impression that there was another cohort that was not there at all.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: It was not just a question of emphasis, the other was excluded. Let us go on-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: It is not quite the answer. There is no reference to those other people in the response that came to us initially. They are included in the 47, but they are not included in the information that was divulged to us.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: For clarification, is it 47 plus nine, or-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: What is misleading, if I may so, is that there is no reference to the nine in the 47.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE Report on Foster Home in Waterford Community Care Area: Discussion (2 Feb 2016)

Joe Costello: In the briefing document that was given to us on 10 December, the impression is given that there is nobody else there at all other than the people who were referred by the South-Eastern Health Board, the HSE or the voluntary providers. There is no reference whatsoever to private referrals or other charitable referrals.

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