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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: I thank the representatives from the different organisations for coming in to discuss quite complex issues. There is a lot of learning to be done. Could Ms Hardiman establish a timeline for me? When was she appointed CEO and when did she go on sick leave? When was the interim CEO appointed and when did the new CEO come in?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: Can I clarify, was Ms Hardiman finishing up in October 2023?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: Was Ms Hardiman on sick leave when she finished or go on sick leave after?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: So, Ms Hardiman went on sick leave a week before she was due to finish her five years.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: How long did that sick leave last?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: Two months.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: Two months.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: There was an interim CEO.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: When was that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: So, Ms Hardiman had come back-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: Was Ms Hardiman on sick leave? She said that was up in January.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: So, Ms Hardiman went on sick leave and then administrative leave.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: January 2025. So, the deputy was there for a year, pretty much. It was 14 months.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: I just wanted that clarified. Ms Hardiman is saying that the legal situation was that because she was there ten years, five years in a previous role and then that role for five years, she essentially had a guaranteed contract. Is that what she is saying? Is that the trusted legal case?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: Does that mean that is the case with all five year contracts? Is it because she had five years or because she had ten? Does it draw a question mark over all five-year contracts we have with CEOs or what is the situation?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: What is the term to allow a fixed term?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: In her current role, has Ms Hardiman a team?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: Is Ms Hardiman still on the senior management team?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2023 - Children's Health Ireland
Financial Statements - National Treatment Purchase Fund
(3 Jul 2025)

Joe Neville: Do they meet regularly with weekly senior management meetings?

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