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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I have to draw a line there, if that is okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: That is not a policing issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: It is not a policing issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: This is meeting is about policing and that is not a policing issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: No.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I will not allow the Deputy to ask the question. It has nothing to do with business-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: The Minister does not need me to guard her.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: It is not about the Minister rather it is about the time of the committee. I am not here to guard the Minister.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: The Deputy already asked the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: Okay. Go ahead with the question then. Quickly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: The Deputy already asked the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I might raise a few issues. Obviously, this is a discussion on policing. One criticism made in some quarters is that gardaí were not more forceful in their engagement with rioters on the streets. I have lived in different cities in Europe and I have seen forceful engagement of riot police with people in a public order scenario. I do not want to see that here. I do not want to see...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I thank the Minister and I have another question about GSOC. The Minister has heard Garda representative organisations state that gardaí are afraid to do certain things because they are concerned it will result in a matter coming before GSOC. In the first instance I want to say that I absolutely support GSOC. The level of accountability that it has brought to policing is very...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: Deputy Ó Laoghaire had to step out to go to the Dáil Chamber for a priority question earlier so I will go to him now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I am conscious this is meeting about policing and not about the timeline of events.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I thank the Minister for that. Senator Ruane said that she wishes to come back in. If anybody wishes to come back in, I will give them one minute each. We will bring everybody in together. I call Senator Ruane first.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: Before the Minister responds, are there any other comments which members may wish to make before we conclude? I will give members one minute if they wish to raise any other distinct issues.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: That is more in the nature of a comment than a question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I thank the Minister. I know the past two weeks have not been easy but I want to say to the Minister, and I know she has said this on a number of occasions, that our concerns are very much with the families affected by the attack on 23 November. We hope for a speedy recovery for everyone. I wanted to express that on behalf of the committee, and I know it is something which has been...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I appreciate that. The committee is now adjourned until Tuesday, 12 December at 4 p.m. when we will meet in private session on housekeeping matters. I thank everyone.

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