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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: I thank the officials for coming in. I will focus on a couple of specific areas. The climate action and energy policy unit fed into this White Paper. Did it give the Department targets? How much of that was taken on board? I am thinking specifically of the constant challenge of economic growth, the climate emergency and reducing our carbon emissions. Let us call a spade a spade - that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: I meant in the digital sector.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: I do not envy the officials.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: For two days. I know it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: That was in my budget submission to the then Minister, the Taoiseach Deputy Varadkar. There is no point in having a green for micro programme if the companies do not know how to follow through.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: I did not mean to grow employment. I meant to reduce their energy bills.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: It is great that we have consultants whom we can pay to do a lot of things but there needs to be deeper understanding within the LEOs on why it is important and the targets. I do not feel this is there. I cannot judge all of them but before I had the budget meeting with the Taoiseach when he was the Minister I did a lot of research on this. The LEOs admitted they did not have the expertise...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: It is everywhere.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: Does the Department have experts on science or energy working for it? My fear is that every Department will spend millions on paying consultants because we do not have expertise within the Departments. It would make much more economic sense for every Department to look to employ people who have the expertise we need. A reduction of 35% is a massive challenge, when many people are content...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: Is that in the local authorities or the Departments?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: All Departments.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: It would be nice if it was mandatory that they have the qualification. There is a word used to mean it is not necessary and it is the second level down. It does not have to be mandatory.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: Yes, I should hope that would be a top priority. The Department should ask for as many as it can. If you do not ask you do not get. I would not be waiting for them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: Okay. That is good.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: There was no mention at all of biodiversity. Is that something that has not crossed the Department’s desk? Increased biodiversity can also help with carbon emissions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: I am just thinking if you do have to get big business to try and reduce their carbon emissions, many of them have a lot of green spaces. Much of it is car parks too but you will see less car parking spaces and more small buses and hopefully there will be increased infrastructure for walking and cycling so there might be more space to turn into green areas and you could be increasing...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: There are some experts in the private sector. I have seen some amazing big companies which have been led by experts from abroad and they have done phenomenal work that the public sector is way behind on. I totally agree on that. The Department has a big challenge. I thank everyone for coming in. It is great to hear they are trying.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: I hope the Department will do so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: Yes. It is way past desirable now. We need informed people to help us get there. We will not get there otherwise.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: White Paper on Enterprise Policy: Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment (8 Mar 2023)

Róisín Garvey: There are 12 digital hubs in Clare. They are excellent and I have used them. The pods were fully confidential and soundproof. I used one in Ennistymon yesterday and felt there were no GDPR issues. There are good examples of hubs but it is probably not enough to leave the responsibility to the Department of Rural and Community Development alone, because remote working will be a major...

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