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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: We have been having meetings over the past nine months. One person, in particular, has not been here. I would like the Minister’s view. Should the former director general, Dee Forbes, come before this committee?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: Would the Minister hold a similar view on the former Secretary General, Katherine Licken, coming to a meeting of this committee?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: Indeed, would that also be the case for Siún Ní Raghallaigh, even though she has left that role?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: We need to get clarity.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: The former chair rang the Secretary General, Feargal Ó Coigligh, to inform him that she had misinformed the Minister twice last week in relation to the CFO payment coming before the committee. Is there a note of that conversation in the Department?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: Could that be provided to the committee?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: In light of the question that was asked about Kevin Bakhurst, does the Minister have confidence in her officials in the Department?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: I would like to ask about the packages. The Minister has been in this role for a number of years. We are going back to Breda O’Keeffe. Would the Minister have been informed at any stage of any of these package deals, exit deals or payments? Have the Minister's officials ever made these known to her in her role as Minister?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: Yes.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: None of the Minister’s officials would have had that information.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: Would the Minister be in favour of a court order in the public interest to get that information?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: Yes.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: It was my understanding that a court order could be taken to get that information, but perhaps I am incorrect. The Minister would be supportive of any mechanism that needs to happen to get that information out into the public domain. As she has said, none of the officials here or other officials in the Department have knowledge of these figures.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: The Minister, therefore, would be supportive of whatever mechanism - a court order or whatever - being put in place to get that information.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: I thank the Minister. Looking to the future, the Minister mentioned the two expert reports and the need for reforms in public sector broadcasting. The reality is that now we are in a situation where we have no chair. We need a chair. We need someone who is very strong in that role. It could be said that it might be difficult to get somebody to take on that role after what has happened...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: I thank the Minister very much.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Oversight of RTÉ's Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues and Plans for Longer-term Support and Funding for Public Service Media: Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media (27 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: I just wanted to make a point that was more to do the timelines on the Thursday. I know Deputy Ruairí Ó Murchú has gone through it. It was extremely important that we heard that information here today. It led to what happened on Thursday night. With regard to the chain of events, I think the Minister was correct to send her letter under the circumstances. I do not think...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Micheál Carrigy: First, I will question Mr. Lynch. I asked the questions in respect of Toy Show The Musicalat a meeting held on 18 January 2023, when we were discussing the future of media, which Senator Cassells raised there. Ironically, Mr. Lynch is sitting in the same seat as he did on that day. I wanted to know RTÉ's views, as an organisation, on where the decision came from, on how much it...

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