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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Good morning everybody. I have two quick questions on capital infrastructure and the progression relating to the addition of a 97-bed unit to Wexford General Hospital. Can anyone give me an update on those?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: As well as the MRI scanner. Construction is due to begin in quarter 1 of 2024.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: I am sorry, but I am under the impression it has gone to planning.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Will the MRI scanner go ahead in quarter 1 of 2024?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Any particular date.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: But on quarter 1, Mr. Tierney is happy it is on track.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: That is the 97-bed unit.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: I thank the officials. No doubt they will get another parliamentary question from me just before. That is great. The crisis relating to mental health continues to escalate. While I hear that everybody is striving to reduce waiting lists and make matters better, I am very concerned at the levels of and escalation in anxiety, especially among children and young teens. Children are...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Does Mr. Gloster agree that anorexia is a mental health condition?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Surely it could not take 30 days for what was already diagnosed for a transfer from a general hospital to Linn Dara where the girl in question would have received the treatment. Mr. Gloster is talking about cost savings, but what did 30 days in a general hospital cost?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: How much is "an awful lot of money", Mr. Gloster?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: It would be at least-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: -----so €100,000 for a child to come to a near-death experience, because she lost 7 kg when she was in the general hospital. Her organs were ready to fail. The girl's mother had to stay with her all day while her husband lay with a terminal cancer diagnosis. He has since passed away and his young child is still in that facility. She was on day release for his funeral. The damage...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: Of course. I mean throughout the CAMHS system. Where a parent cannot get their child into the system, are they entitled to supports? The Parenting Network is one group, and there are many others, such as Parents Plus, that provide necessary supports, but they are unaffordable in many cases.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: I am talking about services that are in existence like the Parenting Network, Parents Plus and many others around the country. Where the HSE is falling down in providing the CAMHS network, from where do we get support for parents who cannot access or are awaiting access? They need support. As a parent, I would find it extremely difficult to deal with any child, including my own, who had a...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: That was after engaging with the team in Wexford in an online discussion. The conclusion was that she would be better off staying where she was for treatment.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: I know the HSE did. I have been contacted by many people who submitted tenders but have heard nothing.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: I will finish on this-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: -----and I ask Mr. Gloster to submit the information. We can write cheques when it all goes wrong and we pay through the nose when the system fails and parents sue or children die. I am trying to institute prevention.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

Verona Murphy: I thank Mr. Gloster. I look forward to seeing what he submits to us.

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