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Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes, a formula of words to use with the petitioner. Is that agreed then? Agreed.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: P00036/23 concerns the Invincibles reinterment campaign. The petitioner is Mr. Aidan Lambert. This petition relates to the National Graves Association. It requests that the Government oblige the Office of Public Works, OPW, to carry out the necessary excavation works to recover the remains of Joseph Brady, Daniel Curley, Michael Fagan, Thomas Caffrey and Timothy Kelly, in what is commonly...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes, we should make decisions.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: To make people aware, 28 councils have passed motions giving their backing to the campaign but the campaign also has the support of 73 TDs, 14 Senators, 30 MLAs, eight MPs and 92 relatives. It has a big lobby behind it and it probably-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes, but I think we need first to focus on the three State bodies. As we have said, one of them has to take responsibility instead of sending the tennis ball over and back or around in circles.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Well, we would imagine so. We will invite in representatives of the three State bodies and try to find out as a committee which of them is going to take responsibility. As the Senator said, when 92 relatives are in favour of it, that is a strong indication it should be done. I fully agree that afterwards, once we get responsibility from one of the State bodies, decisions can then be made...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: We will go with the recommendations. We will invite in representatives of the State bodies and try to get one of the three to take responsibility for this matter. It has been going on too long. The campaign has the backing of 28 councils, TDs, Senators and so on but, as Senator Craughwell said, it also has the support of 92 of the men's relatives, and that should be the main thing....

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: The Department has kind of expressed a willingness to consider the petitioner's suggestion anyway, so there may be a bit of flexibility or leeway from the Department there.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Negotiations are apparently ongoing between them, so there will be a common-sense approach, I hope.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Is that agreed? Agreed. That concludes our consideration of public petitions. I invite members of the public to submit petitions via our online portal, which is available at petitions.oireachtas.ie. A petition may be addressed to the Houses of the Oireachtas on a matter of general public concern or interest or an issue of public policy.

Committee on Public Petitions: Business of Joint Committee (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Next on the agenda is any other business. Do any members have any issues they want to raise?

Committee on Public Petitions: Business of Joint Committee (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: I am told that Cork County Council and the OPW have responded and the response will come up at our next meeting.

Committee on Public Petitions: Business of Joint Committee (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Is there anything else?

Committee on Public Petitions: Business of Joint Committee (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes, he has.

Committee on Public Petitions: Business of Joint Committee (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: We have not spoken about it yet but I would imagine that, as with all petitions, once we discuss it here, the recommendation will be to bring him in and get-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Business of Joint Committee (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: The submission is in and will come up for discussion shortly.

Committee on Public Petitions: Business of Joint Committee (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: We are not going to make a decision on this at the end of a meeting.

Committee on Public Petitions: Business of Joint Committee (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: We have the responses from all bar four county councils. Members need to sit down now and decide where this should go. I agree with the Deputy. We had been told before that we could not go near this because there may be a threat of a court case coming down the road. This committee, every other committee and the Dáil itself will come to a standstill if the excuse can be used that...

Committee on Public Petitions: Business of Joint Committee (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Like I said, we will get it on the agenda for the next meeting and then decide where it goes. Are there any other issues? No. Before we finish, I want to thank Martha, Alex, Ciaran and Barbara for all the work they do on our behalf. It is massive. As Senator Craughwell said, if people in the community have issues, I encourage them to send in a petition and they will get a fair hearing...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Is it agreed that we invite the different organisations to appear before the committee? Agreed. The next petition is No. P00012/23 entitled, "Justice and Safety", from Mr. C.J. Gaffney, which states: We are calling on the Government to compensate us out of the European Maritime Fisheries and Aquaculture Fund (EMFAF) which was offered at our meeting in Brussels and confirmed by the...

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