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Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: We will bring them in.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: I will go back to something Deputy Buckley said about retention. There is a system in place. A family member who is an accountant is going through training but once that training is finished, people are tied in for three years. It is part of the agreement that people are put through the examinations and the whole lot but at the end of it, they are tied for three years so the company gets...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: They licensed this boat.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: I totally agree with the Senator. What haunts me more is that all the officials in this country and in Europe know another three similar boats were out there for which no one is taking responsibility. People's lives are at risk. We spoke the other day in private session about how we, as a committee, are duty-bound to raise these issues that concern people lives. It is about health and...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: I understand this has been going on since 2007, so the family have been fighting it for 17 years. We can imagine the toll of trying to take on two states and the EU over that length of time and the affect that has had on the family. The Department is aware of it, or should be aware at this stage given its representatives have previously appeared before this committee. Some of the problems...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: We will ask about it and if need be, we will FOI it. We will see then whether we can get an independent person to look at it.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: I would imagine the family have those kinds of reports, but the Senator was referring to engaging somebody independent to look at it on behalf of the committee.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes, and people's lives are more important than any amount of money. We got a response from the OPLA and we can circulate the document to members. We can again engage with the family on the reports the Senator is asking about and we will find out whether this committee can get independent assistance in going through that.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes, it is nonsense. I fully agree the Gaffney family did everything to protect their staff and that has cost them an awful amount. People in power are just not willing to take responsibility for three boats we know are out there with the same issues.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: There are hundreds more cases.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: To go back to something Deputy Buckley said, I cannot recall reading any reports about the European Ombudsman being involved in this-----

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: -----so that may be an avenue. Are we saying we should leave the recommendation in respect of the Departments until we get the reports from both sides and engage an expert? As Deputy O'Donoghue suggested, should we have the documentation from both sides before any representatives of the Departments come before the committee? Is that agreed?

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: We can ask whether it has ever come before the ombudsman.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: I do not know who said it earlier but it is a priority that we try to get something done and resolve this as quickly as possible because of the other three boats we know are on the seas.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Is that agreed? Agreed.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Yes.

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: P00022/2023, concerning a referral to the Supreme Court of the incitement to hatred Bill 2022 to protect free speech, is from Mr. Stephen J. Delaney. It states: We The People of the Republic of Ireland, demand that in the event the elected President of Ireland, Michael D. Higgins, be asked by the houses of the Oireachtas to sign into law the Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Does Deputy O'Donoghue wish to add anything further or is he finished?

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Okay. The recommendation is that the correspondence from the petitioner be sent to the Department. We will continue with that. However, the committee is in agreement that we write to the petitioner and advise of what Senator Craughwell and Deputy O'Donoghue said, that the way to go with this, in our opinion, is through the Seanad where lobbying can be done and amendments submitted. It can...

Committee on Public Petitions: Decisions on Public Petitions Received (21 Mar 2024)

Martin Browne: Okay, we will go that way. We will inform the petitioner as to what we have spoken about.

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