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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: Does part B relate to fire safety?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: I will move to Deputy Cronin and we will take Senator Higgins's questions when she arrives in a few minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: I can hear Deputy Cronin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: It is a very interesting question that may fall between different Departments in that one part relates to housing, planning and local government, while energy and emissions relate to environment and climate. Is it the case that it is falling between stools?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: That is a very interesting point. It is a broader debate about how we reduce emissions, both operational and embodied, and achieving net zero. It has previously been suggested at the committee that the Department of the Taoiseach should be the lead body overseeing much of this. Otherwise Departments of equal status and Ministers will vie with each other and then there will not be joined-up...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: I thank Dr. Kinnane. Did the Deputy have a question for Dr. Lindblom as well?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: I thank Dr. Lindblom and Deputy Cronin. I am going to move to Deputy BrĂ­d Smith as she must leave shortly. I will return then to Senator Higgins.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: I think the first question is for Mr. Barry.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: Does Dr. Kinnane have any comment to make on Town Centre First as a policy? I know it has only kicked off but it is an effort to address the point Dr. Kinnane has just made.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: Does Senator Higgins have a question for Ms Lindblom?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: On a point related to Senator Higgins's final question, if the timeframe for the implementation of the directive from Europe is 2027, and our national legislation, in the form of the Climate Action and Low Carbon Development (Amendment) Act 2021, has enshrined within it the objective of reducing emissions by 51% by 2030, and the directive also allows for the accounting of embodied emissions,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: There is a lot to be considered in this area. We might need to have another session. I ask Dr. Kinnane to respond, if he wishes to have a go at doing so.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: That is factoring in the national development plan, and I suppose the embodied emissions would be a subset of it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: Senator Higgins had a series of questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: I agree with that. Senator Higgins had another question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: I will take Deputy Cronin as well before we return to our witnesses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: The first question was about hemp and the next steps that might be involved.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: That is something in which members of the committee are very interested. Is there an association out there conducting a sectoral development analysis? I do not expect that our guests would conduct such an analysis, but are they aware of any organisation or association with which we could speak or to which we could reach out in that regard?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: New Retrofitting Plan and the Built Environment: Discussion (26 Apr 2022)

Brian Leddin: That is something on which the committee will certainly follow up. There is a positive need for us to do that.

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