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Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Assisted Decision-Making (5 Dec 2023)

Peter Burke: It is very important that we articulate lived experiences, especially when going through a new system, so if the Deputy wants to give me the details of the person in question, I will absolutely bring them to the attention of the Minister, Deputy O'Gorman. It is important also that a steering group would see challenges. We know, as constituency TDs holding clinics, how circumstances can...

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Public Sector Pensions (5 Dec 2023)

Public Sector Pensions

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Public Sector Pensions (5 Dec 2023)

Seán Ó Fearghaíl: Deputy Healy-Rae wishes to discuss CIÉ salaried pensioners, who have had no increase granted to their pensions since 2008.

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Public Sector Pensions (5 Dec 2023)

Danny Healy-Rae: Imagine that, a Cheann Comhairle. This is regarding the CIÉ superannuation scheme of 1951 and the impact on 2,279 CIÉ salaried workers. A number of these people visited our group in Leinster House 2000 a couple of weeks ago, one of them being Christy Murphy from Tralee, who was an inspector in his time and managed school transport for CIÉ, and there were a number of ladies...

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Public Sector Pensions (5 Dec 2023)

Seán Ó Fearghaíl: I am a little bit worried now, before the Minister of State answers. If this is a case before the courts, I do not know how we have not been advised of that.

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Public Sector Pensions (5 Dec 2023)

Danny Healy-Rae: I do not know what kind of a court it is, a Cheann Comhairle, but the whole story is wrong anyway.

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Public Sector Pensions (5 Dec 2023)

Seán Ó Fearghaíl: I take it we would have been advised if it were before the courts. It would be sub judiceand we would not be dealing with it.

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Public Sector Pensions (5 Dec 2023)

Danny Healy-Rae: The Minister of State has a copy of the same document as me, does he not?

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Public Sector Pensions (5 Dec 2023)

Peter Burke: I have a prepared response from the Minister, Deputy Ryan, anyway.

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Public Sector Pensions (5 Dec 2023)

Seán Ó Fearghaíl: The case is not sub judice, is it?

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Public Sector Pensions (5 Dec 2023)

Peter Burke: I am not aware that it is but, I have to say, I am not an expert in the matter.

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Public Sector Pensions (5 Dec 2023)

Seán Ó Fearghaíl: I presume the Department would know if it were sub judice.

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Public Sector Pensions (5 Dec 2023)

Peter Burke: Absolutely. I thank Deputy Healy-Rae for raising this important matter, which I am taking on behalf of the Minister, Deputy Ryan. I would like to clarify that issues in respect of Córas Iompair Éireann pension schemes are primarily a matter for the trustees of the pension schemes, the CIÉ Group and its employees. The employees of the CIÉ Group companies, namely, Bus...

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Assisted Decision-Making (5 Dec 2023)

Seán Ó Fearghaíl: To be clear, procedure-----

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Assisted Decision-Making (5 Dec 2023)

Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire: That is not a criticism.

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Assisted Decision-Making (5 Dec 2023)

Seán Ó Fearghaíl: No. To be clear about procedure, where a Minister from another Department is taking a Topical Issue, the Member tabling the Topical Issue is supposed to be informed by the Department that the Topical Issue will be taken by somebody else.

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Assisted Decision-Making (5 Dec 2023)

Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire: Not on this occasion.

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Assisted Decision-Making (5 Dec 2023)

Seán Ó Fearghaíl: If the Deputy tabling the matter is not happy, then they can have it deferred. You should not be here not knowing that somebody from a different Department is going to take the question. It is not the Minister of State, Deputy Burke's fault.

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Assisted Decision-Making (5 Dec 2023)

Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire: I have been informed in the past, but to my knowledge I was not informed on this occasion.

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate: Assisted Decision-Making (5 Dec 2023)

Seán Ó Fearghaíl: That should not happen.

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