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Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Second Stage (16 Oct 2019)

Question put and agreed to.

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

Frank O'Rourke: Amendments Nos. 2, 3, 5 and 6 have been ruled out of order.

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

John Curran: Were all amendments ruled out of order?

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

Frank O'Rourke: We will go through them.

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

Sections 1 to 4, inclusive, agreed to.

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

SECTION 5

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

John Curran: I move amendment No. 1:In page 5, line 2, to delete “For the purposes of this Chapter, the Minister” and substitute “The Minister”. I will not take up a lot of time. We want to make some fairly straightforward points. The Minister referred to another recession. It is also worth noting that in the best of times businesses face challenges, products and services...

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

Regina Doherty: Unfortunately, I cannot accept the amendment. The conditionality is not the same. The reason the section states "For the purposes of this Chapter" is because the conditionality to access jobseeker's benefit for the self-employed is slightly different from that for the employed. We tried to mirror it as closely as possible. The number of contributions are different.

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

John Curran: I am going to get to that.

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

Regina Doherty: That is why the line is in the section not once but 18 times. It is to emphasise that for the purposes of the new chapter 12(a), the conditions are different from the preceding chapters that govern jobseeker's benefit for the employed. It seems like they are only words, but there are different conditions.

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

Frank O'Rourke: How stands the amendment?

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

John Curran: I will press the amendment.

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

Amendment put and declared lost.

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

Amendments Nos. 2 and 3 not moved.

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

John Curran: I move amendment No. 4:In page 5, line 29, to delete “52 contribution weeks” and substitute “39 contribution weeks”. This is similar to amendment No. 3. I am surprised it was ruled out of order because the principle is more or less the same. I will not have a long debate about this, but the argument is that the qualifying contributions for a self-employed person...

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

Regina Doherty: I genuinely appreciate the divergence between the requirements for employed contributions paid at 39 class A contributions in the governing year, while we propose that there are 52 class S contributions for the same type of access to the scheme. The divergence simply reflects how self-employed people pay their PRSI contributions. We will never find anybody with a PRSI contribution of 39...

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

Frank O'Rourke: Is the amendment being pressed?

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

John Curran: I want to make a brief reply. I will not delay the House. I accept that point. It is unfortunate that amendment No. 3 was ruled out of order because it nails the point on having 104 contributions rather than 156. It is a question of two years or three years. The principle of amendment No. 4 is the same as amendment No. 3, namely, that the qualification criterion for the self-employed is...

Social Welfare Bill 2019 [Seanad]: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2019)

Regina Doherty: I appreciate what the Deputy is saying, but they are not the same. We would be having a different conversation if amendment No. 3 had not been ruled out of order. This is not more onerous, given that the self-employed can only make zero or 52 contributions. I hear what the Deputy is saying.

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