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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: I need to explain to the Ministers that we as a committee are united in what we are trying to do, and HSE accountability is the first issue to address. The members will talk about their own constituencies and I do not blame Senator Murnane O'Connor for that because they are getting it in the neck day and night about the problems with this service. Would the Minister like to answer the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: The Minister and Minister of State are speaking about telepsychiatry, updating information technology, access and so forth. Given that the HSE has not got basic computers and programme software right, I do not understand how telepsychiatry services can be promised. I keep referring to scripts being provided to the Department by the HSE. We heard about money but where is it being spent?...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: Yes. We do not have them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: I thank Deputy Neville and I invite the Minister to respond.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: Were any of the Deputy's or Senator's questions directed to the Minister of State?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: As the Minister of State can stay a little longer, I invite the Minister to first answer the questions directed at him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: I think the Deputy has put a good number of questions at this point-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: I agree with the Deputy. I call on Deputy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: I thank the Deputy. If the Ministers could answer both of those sets of questions, please.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: Is there a conflict of interest for members of the Mental Health Commission? They are paid by the Department of Health through the HSE and report to the HSE on inadequacies in its services. Does that make the Minister worry about the openness and transparency of the process? I agree with Deputy O'Loughlin that its members are powerless. They criticise services but that is the end of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: That is a conversation we should have at a later stage-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: -----because its members have no power whatsoever. I call Deputy Rabbitte, to be followed by Senator McFadden.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: I ask the Minister of State to wait until the Minister concluded his response.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: That is fine. I call Senator McFadden.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: I thank the Senator for finishing promptly. I call the Minister to reply.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: And big.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: May I interrupt?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: We do not know if the Minister will remain in his position in the future.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: The reality is that we do not know. How can a decision of this nature be implemented when there is no forward planning and no programme to cover a period of five or ten years? The Minister will probably be appointed to another position. In the event of that happening, how will the decision be implemented?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Engagement with Minister for Health and Minister of State at the Department of Health (11 Jul 2018)

Joan Freeman: The Minister may not come back in his current position.

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