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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I thank Professor Kennedy. Before I call Deputy Browne, I have to ask a question or I am just going to die. Professor Kennedy spoke about recruitment and how there were no recruitment problems at all when it was being handled internally. Then it went to going through the HSE panel process. If the old process was so successful, why did it go to the HSE and when? I agree it should be an...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: That is fine. We will bring this to the Minister's attention and especially what we have heard today. I call Deputy Browne.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I have a few questions for the witnesses. My first question is to Ms Malone. In regard to the inadequacies of the mental health service, has this been brought to the attention of the HSE or the Department of Justice and Equality? My next question is to Mr. Donnellan. He mentioned that 30% of the population in Castlerea Prison are from the Traveller community. Is that reflected anywhere...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I note Professor Kennedy is nodding. Is that not the case?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I am sure we would love to ask millions of questions about Travellers but we do not have time now. I asked about the planning at Portrane.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: It is fact.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: How many have severe enduring illnesses?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We have discovered some consequences where there is a lack of beds. For example, in Deputy Browne's constituency, there are no child beds in the CAMHS unit Wexford, and there are also none in Waterford. It was suggested that there could be a day programme. Could that work with some of the prisoners who are mentally unwell? Would it be more economical and make more sense to do that,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I apologise but I meant for adults. Could we do the same type of thing - a day programme - for adults with mental health issues who are on waiting lists?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Who is responsible for the research on prisoners who are on the waiting list? Ms Malone made the same comment at the beginning of the meeting. There is no research on how long these prisoners are waiting, who they are and what is happening to them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: Does that include prisoners on waiting lists?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We are talking about research on prisoners on waiting lists rather than evaluating what is there. Is there anything in that regard?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We will include all the statements in our report. Could we have the information on prisoners on waiting lists? We would like to include it in the report as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Mental Health Services in Prisons and Detention Centres: Discussion (23 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We will send a letter during the week if that is okay. I thank all the witnesses. This has been an extraordinary meeting. They have told us things we have never heard and which are difficult to listen to. We will let them know about our report when it comes out. We are trying to keep a promise that it will not gather dust on a shelf. The joint committee adjourned at 3.40 p.m. until 5.30...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Business of Joint Committee (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: We have received apologies from Deputy Gino Kenny and Senator Colette Kelleher. Members are requested to ensure their mobile phones are turned off for the duration of the meeting. I propose that we go into private session to deal with housekeeping matters. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I welcome to the meeting from the Health Service Executive, HSE, Mr. Dean Sullivan, deputy director general, strategy; Ms Anne O'Connor, chief operations officer; Mr. Pat Healy, national director of community strategy and planning; and Mr. Jim Ryan, head of operations, mental health. On behalf of the committee, I thank the witnesses for their attendance today. The format of the meeting is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: The committee are aware that this structure was already in place and it is not new and that similar structures to the one outlined were in place prior to 2017.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: If Mr. Sullivan does not mind, we will hear from the committee first. The format for today's meeting is that members are allocated seven minutes, during which questions are asked and we ask that Mr. Sullivan answers as quickly as possible in order that we get in as many questions as possible.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Future of Mental Health Care: Restructuring of Mental Health Services: HSE (16 May 2018)

Joan Freeman: I think that the Deputy has thrown out a few questions. I will ask the witnesses to try to answer some of them.

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