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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I believe there are staff of over 70 nationalities in Dublin Bus.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: The recruitment campaign referred to getting thanked for everything.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: It is history in the making.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: The lack of a deterrent is a problem.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Mr. Kane. Even though I am in the Chair, I cannot exceed the time too much, so I want to conclude. I hope there will be time for the second round. I mentioned the three main asks of SIPTU. One is a dedicated national transport-related Garda service and another is the establishment of a transport advisory council. I was around long enough as a councillor to remember the body...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I saw that there is a second one to deal with racial abuse and drug dealing and taking, in particular.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I thank all SIPTU’s members who work in public transport every day and also those who do so but who are not SIPTU members. We appreciate that it is not easy work. It is difficult enough to drive on the streets or drive a Luas or train all day long without having to deal with unruly, aggressive, violent or racist passengers. I thank our guests for what they are doing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: It is very important that we hear about the particular instances-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: A driver like Ms Armstrong is very vulnerable on her own.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: The drivers do not know what weapons people could be carrying either.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: It is the presence.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: It should be a uniformed service.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Ms Armstrong noted that there are passengers they know are persistent offenders. They might see a person at a stop and think trouble is coming. Mr. Murphy mentioned that there is no age barrier to this kind of behaviour. People could be starting at eight, nine, ten, 11 or 12 throwing rocks or acting the eejit. It needs to be tackled at the persistent offender level because it is probably...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Mr. Wynne is not allowed criticise anyone else. That is in the note.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Go on. But not five more; just one more.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: We did touch on that already, but go ahead.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: We were saying that there are certain routes and certain times of the day and week-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: If you ask nicely, Deputy, we might even give you the answers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Was the survey size similar?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Anti-Social Behaviour on Public Transport: Discussion (17 Apr 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Deputy, you were on your last point about five points ago.

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