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- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: I am sick of all of the failures as well, Mr. Gunning, in relation to this fiasco, which is what the children's hospital has turned into. I am sick of the fact that we have 14 completion dates that have come and gone. In fact, there have been 17 in total, if we are being honest. I am sick of the fact the costs have escalated where it is now €2.2 billion and will be potentially more....
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: It is hundreds of millions of euro in any case.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: I understand that.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: In terms of the process to deal with those claims, am I right in saying there is a standing conciliator as part of the contract. Obviously, if any party does not agree with the adjudication of the standing conciliator, it can go to court. Ultimately, the High Court can adjudicate. Claims can also be settled by agreement where both parties agree they will reach a compromise. From a policy...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: My point is that Mr. Gunning cannot say for certain that it will not be one penny more because, as I have just pointed out, there is a conciliator. I will come to that because Mr. Gunning makes an interesting point. In May 2024, the standing conciliator adjudicated on some of the claims in relation to delays. Am I right that the standing conciliator awarded BAM €108 million,...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: He made a recommendation then. His job is to make a recommendation which is binding unless it is overturned by the courts.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: It is binding unless it is overturned by the courts but the conciliator made a binding recommendation to award the contractor €108 million. That was outside the board's control and it is additional money that will have to be now paid to the contractor. In fact, it may have been paid, and it can only be returned if the High Court adjudicates on it, which it may well do. Am I right...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: The board can issue that notice.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: There are a lot of smoke and mirrors in that. The bottom line is we have a standing conciliator who has all of the evidence. It is a legal-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: It is. It has-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: -----status in relation to the contract. Of course it has status.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: As Mr. Gunning has agreed, it is binding and the conciliator has recommended €108 million. I understand what Mr. Gunning is saying, namely, that the board is going to fight this and that, ultimately, the courts will decide on all of these claims. The conciliator looked at the evidence and all of the information from the board and decided, as part of a partial claim on what are...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: As a consequence, Mr. Gunning would argue that is the main contributing factor to delays.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: Why did the independent conciliator, the referee, not agree with that?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: We are not here to adjudicate. There is a lot of blame to go around. There is an obvious blame game because we have counterclaims from the contractor who is talking about all of the additional design changes and so on, which I will not go into. We have these claims and counterclaims. Ultimately, the courts will decide on all of this. My point is that Mr. Gunning cannot say for certain...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: That is saying I will walk away from my responsibilities. Ultimately-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: That is my point exactly. You do not know.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: You said that not one extra cent would be paid.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: I am not looking for a sweetheart deal. Somebody who is very senior in this project is saying not one more cent will be paid, which may be the case right now in terms of what the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board wants to pay. I am simply making the point this will be taken out of the power of the board and even the Government and will be decided by the courts. Nobody can say...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Construction of New National Children's Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (25 Sep 2024)
David Cullinane: That is a different matter. I want to come to the rooms because it seems extraordinary that the board is essentially saying not one room is complete to standard. With all of the issues, cost overruns and completion dates that have come and gone, I find it hard to explain to people that we have 3,100 rooms which the contractor is saying are complete but the board is saying are not complete...