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Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: I wish to get my head around the issue of the inspections that were conducted. The Irish Refugee Council said that 30 inspection reports had been published, but the witnesses dispute that and say there were 105 inspections. What is the reason for only 30 inspection reports being published? Are there a further 75 reports somewhere that could prove there were other inspections? Were there...

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: Please. Returning to my original question, what is the total cost of private emergency accommodation for 2023 and this year so far?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: International protection applicants.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: That was 2023. Thus far this year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: Mr. McCarthy can give that as well.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: That was for 2023. What about 2024?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: Is it €240 million?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: Right. What is the figure for Ukraine for 2024?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: Okay. Then there is the State-run international protection accommodation service, IPAS, centres. It comes back to my very first question on the comparison between the costs for State-run and private emergency accommodation. Can we have the total for the State-run IPAS centres-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: I asked that earlier. I thought the officials were going to get the breakdown.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: Yes, for 2023 and 2024. I can wait.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: While the officials are looking for that, I have a question on the White Paper on plans for State-run accommodation. The Chair asked whether it was for build or buy. I am just concerned that the witness's answer was not very clear. If it is for buying accommodation, will the Department be targeting hotels? Consider what happened with the D Hotel. It was sold in October and somebody...

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: But there is no guarantee that the Department would do that. That is not what happened in Drogheda.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: Well just ever so slightly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: I think they have fairly got the suss on that already.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: But the Department is not ruling out buying up hotels or any other major amenities within communities.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: My time is running out but I am waiting for the figures.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: Is this for State-run accommodation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: Will Mr. McCarthy call out the figure again?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Imelda Munster: I am sorry but is that €219 million on international protection for when?

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