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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: This is related to the retention of images after the fact that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: That caught my attention as well. The suggestion was that some of those can be retained after they are required.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: I want to note that, as is his prerogative, the Deputy has used a considerable amount of time on his submissions. We will have to reduce the time for responses accordingly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: Thank you. We are going to move on because we have spent a lot of time on the opening statement. Senator Gallagher is up next, followed by Senator Ward and Deputy Pringle.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: I will move on quickly because we are running out of time. There is to be a second round. Some of those witnesses are in different time zones, but I hope everyone will be able to contribute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: Is there anybody else to whom Deputy Smyth wishes to direct her questions?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: I do not know if the Commissioner wants to respond to the comment about criminals using AI while law enforcement has a hand tied behind its back.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: Senator McDowell is next and then our final member to come in on this strand will be Deputy Ward. I mention for the information of all members and witnesses that this session must conclude sharply at 6 p.m. because we have a second session commencing at 6.15 p.m. with some international witnesses in various time zones. It is a bit of an effort to get them all lined up online so I do not...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: I thank the Senator very much. On that, we heard a testimony at the outset and I believe Mr. O'Sullivan gave some statistics. I am aware of some civil cases for breach of privacy and so forth, but has there been a record of false conviction in any jurisdiction that anyone is aware of under this technology? Any of the witnesses may wish to come in briefly on that. I think it was referred...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: Does Ms Cronin know if he received any kind of compensation or any kind of redress afterwards?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: There is an ongoing dispute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: I thank Ms Cronin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: I thank Mr. O'Sullivan. I will move swiftly on because I have a window to do so unless the Senator wants to press any particular witness for an answer on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: That is very good. It is always appreciated; they are always insightful. I will go to Deputy Ward who has not gotten to speak yet. He will be our final member to contribute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: The Deputy can transfer the two minutes to Deputy Daly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: Sorry, I do not think I can allow that question because, as I understand it, there is ongoing litigation with regard to the publication in question. There is also an entity being referenced that is not represented in the room, which would fly in the face of our normal rules. Unfortunately, I do not think that question is permissible.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: The Commissioner might want to make a general comment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: We have just about concluded this session on time. I remind members that we are back in 15 minutes for part two. I thank all the witnesses across the spectrum who contributed. It was a very valuable hearing. I thank them all for their time, contributions and inputs. They were very valuable. Is it agreed that we publish the opening statements to the committee website? Agreed. We will...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: We are resuming our engagement on the general scheme of the An Garda Síochána (recording devices) (amendment) Bill. We invite those witnesses joining us online to log in. They may take a minute to do whatever they need to do. If the witnesses are online, we are trying to get them connected. They might be able to hear us but not see us. We are working on it. I welcome our...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Garda Síochána (Recording Devices) (Amendment) Bill: Discussion (13 Feb 2024)

James Lawless: I am sorry to interrupt-----

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