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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: To what end, one might ask. I assume Mr. Walsh's role is to uphold the planning process at all times. It is not to be right or wrong but to uphold standards.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I assume Deputy Connolly brought up this issue, but I was not here for it. There are three women on the board. Previously, there were four.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I think there were three women out of ten.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Where is he? Is this not up-to-date?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: What is the breakdown of men and women on the board now?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: What I cannot understand is why there is not a 50%-50% breakdown. I can understand in some organisations where there is history but the board is drawing from expertise. I would argue that there are plenty of women out there with expertise in planning. Has An Bord Pleanála any plan to have more than 30% women? Some 30% would be the minimum acceptable percentage, even though I do not...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Is it the case then that the Minister did not appoint the women?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I understand.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I refer to the list of people from which the Minister picks. Do we have access to that list, Chairman? Can I get information on the bulk list for one of the positions? Have we any idea if there is a 50%-50% breakdown in terms of recommendations coming in? I am getting worn out with excuses as to why we do not 50% women. There is always an excuse.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Do not say they are great women.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: How many women were on the board before 2017?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: So this is an improvement of 200%.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: That lady, the former chair-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: By whom?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I am aware of the gender quotas but in this case, there are plenty of women in the sphere. That is why I cannot understand why it is not 50%. Is anything specifically laid out as to how to correct that? Instead of having a quota, have it as equality.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Can Mr. Sheridan give me the weighting between males and females in respect of the nominations for the latest position, to which a man was appointed? From what bucket was he was who pulled out of? Was there a 50-50 mix in it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: It always seems to be the guy who gets pulled out of the bucket.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: It may well be. I would like to see it laid out. I do not mind if it is anonymised. If 20 people were nominated, was it 50-50 and are we always choosing the man?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: If they just keep nominating men, it is-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of An Bord Pleanála (3 Oct 2019)

Kate O'Connell: It is because sometimes in jobs, in medicine, surgery or whatever, one just does not have the women coming through. In planning, development and building there are definitely women. I do not normally go on about this issue but it is particularly stark and it is very important in terms of the skills mix that is brought to the table when the board is making decisions for people in society, of...

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