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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Voluntary Organisations in the Health Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I thank our guests for all they do and for attending this meeting. On her final point, is Dr. McCarthy is really stating that if one cannot quantify the need in the community or the work that is being done, one cannot put a value on it and, as a result, it cannot be budgeted for and that bedding it into the base is a cost? In terms of respect, it is disappointing to hear that there is a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Voluntary Organisations in the Health Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: So we are talking about people who might be in St. John of God's and those with Down's syndrome who may get three weeks of respite.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Voluntary Organisations in the Health Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: It was mentioned that the groups had arisen from the community in order to meet its needs. Would any dissociation from their connection with people be an erosion of their work? There seems to be a dissociation between the HSE and their work, with the Disability Federation of Ireland being an essential link in that regard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Voluntary Organisations in the Health Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: On policy, how is the relationship between the delegates' organisations and the Department in coming up with policy initiatives for people engaging with the services they offer when one takes the money and contracts out of the equation? I refer specifically to people with epilepsy who may not drive. Epilepsy Ireland previously contacted me on this issue. Such persons do not receive a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Voluntary Organisations in the Health Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: It would also be in the public interest.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Voluntary Organisations in the Health Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: It is unlikely to affect a significant number of people.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Voluntary Organisations in the Health Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: On outcomes and their engagement with the workforce, it would be very useful for those who might be diagnosed in their teens and then go to university not to meet that barrier. It is very difficult to explain to an 18 year old lad with epilepsy that he may not drive. Perhaps as a result of this meeting the committee will write to the Minister to remind him of the correspondence in that regard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Voluntary Organisations in the Health Sector: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: If the issue affects 5,000 people, there is a public good. In recognition of what Mr. Murphy and his organisation have worked towards, it would be helpful if the committee were to do so.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: On what page is the chart to which the Chairman referred which indicates the investment in Bank of Ireland?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: If we look at this example, there is almost an inference that the return received represented good value or was a good idea. When did we give it the money during the bail-out? Was it eight or ten years ago? There is a surplus of €200 million after an eight or ten-year investment period. It does not seem like good value for money or a good return for the country. The Comptroller and...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: It always happens, the cycle.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Okay. If we are in this precarious position, which we clearly are as we are carrying that mountain of debt, and if there is a hard Brexit, we really could be in the depths of a recession worse than we were in ten years ago. Would that be true to say? If there is a 100% chance today and then we have a likely contraction of 10%, that does not seem ideal. Would it be true to say we need to...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: If the interest rates had not been so favourable, we would be in a far more precarious position, would we not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: It is purely interest rates.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: We have been lucky.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: We might not necessarily be as lucky into the future and we have to be very conscious of that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: Perhaps this is outside the remit of the meeting but we have significant pay pressure coming on because there is an affordability issue. I am assuming people like Mr. O'Kelly are very concerned about this in terms of an inflationary set-up taking off. It is quite concerning, especially when we have been lucky with interest rates and given the threat of Brexit. Has Mr. O'Kelly any view on...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: The appointment of Ms Lagarde is positive, as Mr. O'Kelly mentioned.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Kate O'Connell: I know I discussed the NTMA building with Mr. O'Kelly - is it a year since he was here? Time goes very quickly.

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