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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: Will Mr. Watt reiterate an apology?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: Will Mr. Watts take the opportunity here again? If he is not 100% certain an apology has been issued, will he issue one here again today?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: Okay. Mr. Watt is refusing to take the opportunity here today.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: Okay, but I think this is a missed opportunity here this morning. Regarding the whistleblower who exposed this practice regarding these dossiers, Shane Corr, would Mr. Watt agree that he did the State a massive service in exposing this rotten practice within the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: I believe he did the State a great service. It is reported that the Standards in Public Office Commission, SIPO, has launched a preliminary inquiry into complaints made by Mr. Corr. Is Mr. Watt aware of those reports?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: Are those reports accurate?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: That is fair enough. Has SIPO been in touch with Mr. Watt?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: Will Mr. Watt participate fully in any inquiry that may be initiated? Will he give a commitment to full co-operate if an inquiry is initiated?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: Okay. On budget 2024 and what Mr. Gloster has called a major underfunding of the HSE, does he have concerns about the level of funding to the HSE for 2024?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: With regard to maintaining the existing level of services, what did Mr. Gloster and the HSE request from the Department in budget 2024 to maintain existing service levels?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: There is obviously a great disparity between what was anticipated to be the minimum required to maintain services and what was actually given in the budget, which was an additional €708 million. There is a great disparity there. What is the rough figure?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: Mr. Gloster has been very open and vocal on the shortfall as regards the money that is needed. It was reported that he wrote to the Minister for Health to express concerns about the underfunding.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: Did he get a reply from the Minister?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: Supporting verbally is completely different from actually supporting by providing the funding needed to maintain the minimum services required for 2024.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: Does Mr. Gloster believe the HSE came out poorly from the budget? Does he believe it was done wrong as regards its requirements to provide the needed level of care?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: I have limited time. I will ask about the recruitment embargo and the impact it is having and will have. More than 7,000 critical and essential posts have essentially been scrapped as a result of the embargo. Has the HSE ascertained how many essential posts this will have a direct impact on?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: A final question-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: Just a final question on-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: On the Government's underfunding of the HSE and the impact that is having by way of the recruitment embargo, does Mr. Gloster agree that the message going out to young graduates who have gone through four years or more of college is that they are not wanted here and that they should go to Dubai, Canada or Australia?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 38 - Health
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 18 - Health Service Executive Funding and Financial Reporting
(1 Feb 2024)

John Brady: I will start with the national children's hospital. In October of last year the chief officer of the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board, David Gunning, was before the committee. He stated fairly categorically that the hospital would finally be completed after so many missed dates by 29 October 2024. He said there would be a six-month fit-out, and he would expect the first...

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