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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: I welcome all our witnesses. I have had ongoing engagement with Ms Graham and Mr. Creegan on many issues that relate to my constituency, Wicklow. I will follow up on the issue of Go-Ahead Ireland, which will be no surprise to Mr. Creegan and Ms Graham because we have had plenty of conversations on its performance across the State and particularly in Wicklow. The licence was issued to...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: The contract was issued in 2018.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: It was initially for five years.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: The NTA would argue the point, but it is the privatisation of bus routes. I stand over that. The evidence shows that the privatisation of these routes has failed. I will ask about performance-related fines. Does Ms Graham have figures for the fines imposed on Go-Ahead Ireland in 2018?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: Does she have them for 2019?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: Okay, the widely publicised figures are that in 2021 it was just over €437,000. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: The widely publicised figures for 2022 are more than €3 million. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: Yes, Go-Ahead Ireland.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: Dublin Bus provides many more services than Go-Ahead Ireland. I am focusing solely on Go-Ahead Ireland, which received fines of more than €3 million. Does Ms Graham have the figures for 2023?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: Dublin Bus provides far more routes. Go-Ahead Ireland received fines of nearly €1 million despite ongoing rhetoric-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: It was €300,000 and €500,000.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: Despite all of the rhetoric that Go-Ahead Ireland had issues but was going to improve its services and so on, still we saw a substantial amount of fines being levied on it. Would Ms Graham view those fines as substantial?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: I can speak from a Wicklow perspective. Three routes were handed over to Go-Ahead Ireland - the 185, the 184 and the 45A. Throughout the years since Go-Ahead Ireland has taken them over, there have been consistent failures to provide a service that is fit for purpose. I have given many stories of how it has impacted on different people. For example, they are left waiting for buses that...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: Absolutely. In 2023, what happened when the five-year contract was up?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: Ms Graham acknowledges the serious failings. There was an opportunity-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: As the people who have contacted me see it, and I agree, we are post Covid now and those issues are still happening on the routes I am speaking about.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: There was an opportunity to address it but a decision was taken by the NTA to extend the contract for Go-Ahead Ireland and reward it for its failings. Am I right in saying that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: BusConnects has the potential to provide a brilliant service. In my constituency, critical new local public transport routes, such as the L1, L2 and L3, are being rolled out. I am concerned that those new routes have been handed over to Go-Ahead Ireland to operate. Was there a tendering process for those new routes for Go-Ahead Ireland? Was Dublin Bus given the opportunity to provide the...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: Sorry. There is a real concern that given the failures of Go-Ahead Ireland to put in place a service that people can rely on, the lessons have not been learned and by rewarding them and giving them additional routes, we will be left with a continuation of further bad routes.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

John Brady: They are operated by a service provider that has a very questionable track record both in the UK and Ireland.

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