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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I am happy to do that.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: To respond to the Chair, if the Government's defence of this legislation is that it will speed up the process and save time, one would imagine the Government or officials have some kind of analysis of how much time might be saved or how much it will speed it up by-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: -----even within a range.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: In the context of the discussion Deputy O'Callaghan and I were trying to have with the Minister of State, Deputy Dillon, on whether an analysis was underpinning this, the Minister of State is essentially confirming that there is no analysis of the actual amount of time it is likely to save. There is a hope that this will do something, but no actual assessment.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: How do you know that if there is no analysis stating what it potentially could save time-wise?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Will the Minister of State stick to these reforms in these sections?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: We have no idea how much time it will save.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: We do not know. It might not save any time, other than maybe a few weeks.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Other than a few weeks. That is the only certainty the Minister of State has.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: The three amendments are really interrelated

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: For the record, what this does is substitute the equivalent of section 50A of the existing Planning and Development Act after the insertion of the equivalent of section 50. It does not carry forward some of the concerning requirements with respect to undertakings. Again, that is something we dealt with dealt with in a previous amendment, which should not be controversial as the Bill deals...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I am good.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Then we are in the same position. The Minister of State is saying this can only be positive but he has no idea what it is. How can he come to the committee and say this can only be positive from the point of view of environmental and non-governmental organisations when he does not actually know what is being proposed? That is the fundamental problem. It is important that we disentangle...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: There will also be separate legislation from another Government Department that the Minister of State has no sight of because it has not been written.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Will the Minister of State tell the committee what the cost regime and legal aid are going to look like? How will he convince us that this is not going to be as appallingly inefficient and unfair as the existing legal aid scheme is for other matters?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: We know all of that. That is not the issue. What we want to know is the detail. For example, the current legal aid scheme has all sorts of restrictions with regard to reducing costs and cutting costs that deny people access to legal representation on their day in court and a whole range of other matters. The Minister of State wants us to dispense with the current regime that is in place....

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: The Minister of State does not know it is going to happen. He might not even be in government when those regulations come out, and they could be very different from what he has been promised.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: That is the problem. The Minister of State has told us what the group is going to consider. What he has not told us is what the outcome of that consideration has been. Of course, he cannot tell us that because it has not been decided.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I will deal with the matter I wished to raise when we get to the relevant section, just to be helpful.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Apr 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 955: In page 441, between lines 4 and 5, to insert the following: “Supplemental provisions 250. (1) In this section— “Court”, where used without qualification, means the High Court (but this definition shall not be construed as meaning that subsections (2) to (6) and (9) do not extend to and govern the exercise by the Supreme Court of...

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