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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Katherine Zappone: Is it also correct that Norway is considering repealing its legislation on prostitution on the basis of a study of 123 sex workers?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Katherine Zappone: Dr. Whitaker also referred to the Global Commission on HIV and the Law which stated in July 2012 that criminalisation drives people underground. A number of questions were asked about driving people underground and away from essential health services. Is the judgment expressed in the report in question based on evidence? Does the report refer to a sample or establish a clear cause and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Katherine Zappone: Does Dr. Whitaker not know if the report is based on evidence?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Katherine Zappone: We need to clarify that issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Katherine Zappone: I thank Ms O'Connor for her presentation and I regret that more members of the committee were not here for it, not only because Ms O'Connor is the author of what I believe is very significant research into this area in Ireland but also because of the way she very helpfully explained the two primary approaches we are examining. Her comments really added value to the submissions she has made....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Katherine Zappone: In terms of the submissions received by the committee there has been criticism of the evaluation conducted by the Swedes into their own legislation, particularly that it lacked scientific rigour. Does Ms O'Connor wish to comment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Katherine Zappone: She was the author of the evaluation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Katherine Zappone: I thank Ms O'Connor for her helpful comments.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Katherine Zappone: I thank both witnesses. I apologise that more members are not present. The presentations were helpful. I will ask Dr. McGarry a question, as I cannot find the details in the submission before me or in the wider submission that she just presented. What sample did she use in her doctoral research, out of which she offered her views and analyses? To how many people did she speak?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Katherine Zappone: It was a qualitative methodology. Dr. McGarry stated: "Policies that solve problems need to be begin with pragmatic evidence-based data if they are to construct responses that do not start from ideological standpoints." Verbally and in written form, she mentioned that safety, human rights and social justice should be at the forefront of any legislative change in terms of prostitution....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (16 Jan 2013)

Katherine Zappone: When the witness says that, does she mean she is not coming at the issue from a moral perspective? She will not make a judgment about whether prostitution is right.

Seanad: Order of Business (30 Jan 2013)

Katherine Zappone: I was recently given the honour of being nominated to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe on behalf of the Dáil Technical Group and Independent Senators. While attending the assembly session in Strasbourg last week, I also had the opportunity to chair a legal affairs committee in Brussels. Ireland's leadership and presence is critical for our Presidency of the Council of...

Seanad: Order of Business (5 Feb 2013)

Katherine Zappone: I want to welcome and acknowledge the journalist, human rights activist and campaigner, Orla Tinsley, who is in the Visitors Gallery today. I invited Orla to the House because I wanted to acknowledge her extraordinary leadership, as a young woman, on the public record and in her presence. We are all aware of the tireless, dignified and effective campaigning that Orla Tinsley has done on...

Seanad: Order of Business (5 Feb 2013)

Katherine Zappone: I have a question for the Leader.

Seanad: Order of Business (5 Feb 2013)

Katherine Zappone: Yet, she presents such an extraordinarily beautiful face of hope for those who can benefit, and puts out the message that other drugs will be developed, hopefully, for those who suffer with the disease. She is a hero and a leader to whom we, as lawmakers, must continue to listen. In light of the developments within the health sector, I ask the Leader to organise a debate with the Minister,...

Seanad: Irish Bank Resolution Corporation Bill 2013: Second Stage (6 Feb 2013)

Katherine Zappone: Good morning, Minister. It has been said that there is no legal or moral obligation on Ireland to pay the bank debt. I am not so sure, particularly with regard to the moral obligation. I am sure that we do not know the future. None of us is absolutely certain that the acceptance or rejection of the Bill will bring us what we all hope for. As Senator Darragh O'Brien clearly articulated,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Feb 2013)

Katherine Zappone: I have two questions for Mr. Maguire whose evidence is very helpful. We have heard also from others that it is impossible to put a figure on the number of women involved in prostitution in Ireland on a daily basis. In the light of Mr. Maguire's research, what is his response to this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Feb 2013)

Katherine Zappone: I thank Mr. Maguire for that information as the figures corroborate the findings of other research. Mr. Maguire created a database of the movements of people because he was able to witness them, as distinct from monitoring the profiles. There is a question mark against the number of people relative to the number of profiles.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Feb 2013)

Katherine Zappone: Of course.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Review of Legislation on Prostitution: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Feb 2013)

Katherine Zappone: It sounds like Mr. Maguire has developed very sophisticated research methodology and I thank him for sharing it with us. My next question is addressed both to him and Superintendent Healy. Is either gentleman able to comment on approximately how many women involved in prostitution are free to leave of their own volition?

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