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Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Second Stage (16 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: The Senator might give us his record on Northern Ireland and how his party approaches things up there. We would all be interested in hearing that.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: Senator Wilson, the eminent expert.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: I welcome the Minister to the House. As spokesperson for the Labour Party, I have listened to Fianna Fáil Members for two hours and 49 minutes putting forward amendment after amendment. Having been questioned on them, they have back-pedalled faster than one could go down a hill.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: I know that. The Cathaoirleach has given a great deal of latitude to other Members.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: The County Cavan model is referred to in the amendment. Will Senator Wilson indicate who was responsible for introducing the by-laws in Cavan? Was it the elected representatives or was it the executive board of the local authority?

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: The Senator should allow me to finish. If it was the elected representatives, did they knowingly and willingly impose a charge of €200 on the citizens of Cavan?

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: Am I correct in stating that Senator Wilson has indicated that they did not do so?

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: Fine. So they introduced by-laws but did not make include any financial implications in respect of them. Was it the case that because a degree of political courage would have been required in respect of implementing the charge, the elected representatives handed over responsibility for the decision to the executive board?

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: I am of the view that what we have been presented with here is ridiculous. Senator Wilson was described earlier as the expert on the Cavan model. It is obvious that the Cavan model should be consigned to one of the lakes in that county because it is absolutely disastrous for the people who live there. In his expert description and analysis of the scheme, Senator Wilson neglected to mention...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: The Senator has confused himself.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: Except in County Cavan.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: They say all politics is local. We have made significant progress this evening in terms of clarifying some of these amendments. However, issues of no significance are also being raised. When the Minister replies, Opposition Members do not listen. If a Government spokesperson conveys the same information, it eventually sinks in and we can move on to the next amendment. If that is the...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: As the Minister said, all properties must be subject to inspection; whether they are in a high-risk area or otherwise is irrelevant. We cannot make fish of one and flesh of another. Properties in high-risk areas will be inspected, while those which are not may not be. Senator Ó Domhnaill seems to be hung up on certain aspects of this provision. To reiterate, the information being sought...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: Yes, he said that.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: That is another red herring.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: We will be able to have our breakfast here soon.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: I probably need to be more prescriptive in my delivery of my deliberation. When I referred to all houses, I mean all houses in the context of this particular legislation, the houses with septic tanks, of which Senator Ó Domhnaill informs us, there are 475,000 in the country. I wish to put this on the record of the House for the sake of clarity. When I speak in future I will be a lot...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: We all like to get on the record and it is nearly midnight. There appears to be confusion on the part of one member of the Opposition who seems willing to accept that the Minister will do this by way of regulation. Another person from the same party is not accepting it. Perhaps it is getting so late-----

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (23 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: -----people do not understand what the Minister is saying. He clearly stated that this matter will be dealt with by way of regulation when the time comes and in fairness to the Minister, if we are to progress this further tonight and when we return to it tomorrow evening, and I accept that much good work has been done in the hours we have been here, we should accept the Minister's bona fides...

Seanad: Order of Business (24 Nov 2011)

Denis Landy: I reassure my colleague that the Government has certainly not conceded to the Opposition regarding the implementation of the Cavan model for the Water Services (Amendment) Bill.

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